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Chain jacket

2025-01-19T21:31:20Z

Sigmundr:

{{ItemBox
|name={{PAGENAME}}
|active=[[armour chains]] (2.42 kg)
|passive=[[large anvil]]
|group=Armour
|materials=no
|result=* '''{{PAGENAME}}''' (2.20 kg)
|skill=Chain armour smithing
|dyeamount=130
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[[CDB|Main]] / [[Skills]] / [[Smithing]] / [[Armour smithing]] / [[Chain armour smithing]] / '''{{PAGENAME}}'''

== Description ==
''A heavy jacket made from metal chain.''

== Notes ==
* Armour protection for your torso. Chain armour has a moderate penalty to [[road|walking]] speed.
* The chain jacket is the most difficult piece of the [[:Category:Chain armour|chain armour]] set to create
* The [[quality]] of the large anvil as well as your chain armour smithing skill affects your creation chance.
* Creation of the chain jacket is allowed when the combination of the large anvil QL and the chain armour smithing skill gives approximately 66% chance of creating the armour chains

[[Category:Armour]]
[[Category:Chain armour]]
[[Category:Babel/C]]

Talk:Chain jacket

2025-01-19T21:27:21Z

Sigmundr:

Put in the skill requirement for crafting the chain jacket.

: It's not a skill requirement, it's based on the total success rate. Thus if you have a good anvil you need less skill, while a bad anvil requires more skill. - [[User:Dashiva|Dashiva]] 16:39, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

===Possible skill calculator?===
I helped somebody a few days ago with them making a jacket, they had a 20ql anvil and 20something skill, they were not able to make the jacket. When he got a 22ql anvil and 26 skill he was able to. Also, 2 maps ago i experimented with this, i found that starting at 70, for every 1 anvil QL you have, you will need 2 less skill..it fits in both of these encounters. But, as i have no fact and only 2 tests and i dont plan on testing this again (too much work!), i wont put up this anywhere >.>

--[[User:Artibaton|Artibaton]] 05:53, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

: The note on the article page says 50 QL anvil and 19 skill, which doesn't really fit. There's also a very high probability that armour smithing skill plays a part (although minor), maybe misc items skill as well. I believe the only practical indicator is to look at your success rate at creating armour chains. It should depend on the same factors, so we don't have to worry about the specific variables. - [[User:Dashiva|Dashiva]] 11:24, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

===Known data points===
(Please add more data points if you have them.)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! large anvil Ql !! Chain armour smithing !! chain barding % !! armour chains % !! creation attempt allowed?
|-
| 34.2 || 22.02 || 8 || 64 || no
|-
| 34.1 || 22.31 || 9 || 66 || yes
|-
| 20 || 20something || ? || ? || no
|-
| 22 || 26 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 30.5 || 23.15 || ? || ? || no
|-
| 31 || 23 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 77.08 || 13.79 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 22.44 || 26.07 || 8 || 64 || no
|-
| 23.86 || 26.47 || 10 || 67 || yes
|}

===† Tagged for Innacuracy===
With a 30.5QL large anvil, 29.5QL chains and 23.15 chain armour smithing, I still can't make the jacket. I get the option to make a chain jacket with a 31ql anvil and 23 chain smithing, so I've changed the page.

--[[User:Mallaboro|Mallaboro]] 19:10, 11 August 2010 (GMT)

== Note ==

Can anyone verify the accuracy of the note? It sort of conflicts with the skill requirement and large anvil QL on [[chain armour smithing]]. --[[User:Xsamuraizx|Xsamuraizx]] 22:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

== Note ==
I was able to make make chain jacket at 7% chance at 13.79 Chain armour smithing with 77.08ql anvil. This info might be helpful for anyone that's looking to complete Smithing Journal.
--[[User:Kaelygon|Kaelygon]] 18:15, 23 September 15.17 (GMT)

== Note ==
Has any more insights been made into creation chance vs chain smithing skill + anvil ql? Can this information be added to the main chain jacket page so it's not partly hidden in the talks section? --[[User:Nekrolysis|Nekrolysis]] ([[User talk:Nekrolysis|talk]]) 17:44, 18 September 2024 (PDT)

== Note ==
As a new player on Guidance (max skill lvl 30), I aimed for the data point indicating allowed creationg attempt of chain jacket at 26 chain smithing skill and 22 QL anvil. This did not work with QL 22.28 armor chains. The data point I was refering to is over 10 years old, so the algorithm could have changed since then, or it could be that higher QL chains are sufficient. I have updated my own data point, and will update with more whenever I get both skill, anvil and chains closer to 30 --[[User:Sigmundr|Sigmundr]] ([[User talk:Sigmundr|talk]]) 16:09, 12 January 2025 (CET)

== Note ==
Was finally able to do it. I added the result to the data point matrix. It seems getting either 65% or 66% armor chain creation chance is adequate for getting a creation chance on the chain jacket. I found that a 50% mix between anvil QL and chain armor smithing skill is the most effective approach, with perhaps a slightly heavier impact coming from the anvil rather than the skill. --[[User:Sigmundr|Sigmundr]] ([[User talk:Sigmundr|talk]]) 22:27, 19 January 2025 (CET)

Talk:Chain jacket

2025-01-19T21:23:35Z

Sigmundr: /* Known data points */

Talk:Chain jacket

2025-01-12T15:13:50Z

Sigmundr: /* Known data points */

Put in the skill requirement for crafting the chain jacket.

: It's not a skill requirement, it's based on the total success rate. Thus if you have a good anvil you need less skill, while a bad anvil requires more skill. - [[User:Dashiva|Dashiva]] 16:39, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

===Possible skill calculator?===
I helped somebody a few days ago with them making a jacket, they had a 20ql anvil and 20something skill, they were not able to make the jacket. When he got a 22ql anvil and 26 skill he was able to. Also, 2 maps ago i experimented with this, i found that starting at 70, for every 1 anvil QL you have, you will need 2 less skill..it fits in both of these encounters. But, as i have no fact and only 2 tests and i dont plan on testing this again (too much work!), i wont put up this anywhere >.>

--[[User:Artibaton|Artibaton]] 05:53, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

: The note on the article page says 50 QL anvil and 19 skill, which doesn't really fit. There's also a very high probability that armour smithing skill plays a part (although minor), maybe misc items skill as well. I believe the only practical indicator is to look at your success rate at creating armour chains. It should depend on the same factors, so we don't have to worry about the specific variables. - [[User:Dashiva|Dashiva]] 11:24, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

===Known data points===
(Please add more data points if you have them.)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! large anvil Ql !! Chain armour smithing !! chain barding % !! armour chains % !! creation attempt allowed?
|-
| 34.2 || 22.02 || 8 || 64 || no
|-
| 34.1 || 22.31 || 9 || 66 || yes
|-
| 20 || 20something || ? || ? || no
|-
| 22 || 26 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 30.5 || 23.15 || ? || ? || no
|-
| 31 || 23 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 77.08 || 13.79 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 22.44 || 26.07 || 8 || 64 || no
|}

===† Tagged for Innacuracy===
With a 30.5QL large anvil, 29.5QL chains and 23.15 chain armour smithing, I still can't make the jacket. I get the option to make a chain jacket with a 31ql anvil and 23 chain smithing, so I've changed the page.

--[[User:Mallaboro|Mallaboro]] 19:10, 11 August 2010 (GMT)

== Note ==

Can anyone verify the accuracy of the note? It sort of conflicts with the skill requirement and large anvil QL on [[chain armour smithing]]. --[[User:Xsamuraizx|Xsamuraizx]] 22:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

== Note ==
I was able to make make chain jacket at 7% chance at 13.79 Chain armour smithing with 77.08ql anvil. This info might be helpful for anyone that's looking to complete Smithing Journal.
--[[User:Kaelygon|Kaelygon]] 18:15, 23 September 15.17 (GMT)

== Note ==
Has any more insights been made into creation chance vs chain smithing skill + anvil ql? Can this information be added to the main chain jacket page so it's not partly hidden in the talks section? --[[User:Nekrolysis|Nekrolysis]] ([[User talk:Nekrolysis|talk]]) 17:44, 18 September 2024 (PDT)

== Note ==
As a new player on Guidance (max skill lvl 30), I aimed for the data point indicating allowed creationg attempt of chain jacket at 26 chain smithing skill and 22 QL anvil. This did not work with QL 22.28 armor chains. The data point I was refering to is over 10 years old, so the algorithm could have changed since then, or it could be that higher QL chains are sufficient. I have updated my own data point, and will update with more whenever I get both skill, anvil and chains closer to 30 --[[User:Sigmundr|Sigmundr]] ([[User talk:Sigmundr|talk]]) 16:09, 12 January 2025 (CET)

Talk:Chain jacket

2025-01-12T15:10:12Z

Sigmundr:

Put in the skill requirement for crafting the chain jacket.

: It's not a skill requirement, it's based on the total success rate. Thus if you have a good anvil you need less skill, while a bad anvil requires more skill. - [[User:Dashiva|Dashiva]] 16:39, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

===Possible skill calculator?===
I helped somebody a few days ago with them making a jacket, they had a 20ql anvil and 20something skill, they were not able to make the jacket. When he got a 22ql anvil and 26 skill he was able to. Also, 2 maps ago i experimented with this, i found that starting at 70, for every 1 anvil QL you have, you will need 2 less skill..it fits in both of these encounters. But, as i have no fact and only 2 tests and i dont plan on testing this again (too much work!), i wont put up this anywhere >.>

--[[User:Artibaton|Artibaton]] 05:53, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

: The note on the article page says 50 QL anvil and 19 skill, which doesn't really fit. There's also a very high probability that armour smithing skill plays a part (although minor), maybe misc items skill as well. I believe the only practical indicator is to look at your success rate at creating armour chains. It should depend on the same factors, so we don't have to worry about the specific variables. - [[User:Dashiva|Dashiva]] 11:24, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

===Known data points===
(Please add more data points if you have them.)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! large anvil Ql !! Chain armour smithing !! chain barding % !! armour chains % !! creation attempt allowed?
|-
| 34.2 || 22.02 || 8 || 64 || no
|-
| 34.1 || 22.31 || 9 || 66 || yes
|-
| 20 || 20something || ? || ? || no
|-
| 22 || 26 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 30.5 || 23.15 || ? || ? || no
|-
| 31 || 23 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 77.08 || 13.79 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 22.44 || 26.07 || 8 || 22.28 || no
|}

===† Tagged for Innacuracy===
With a 30.5QL large anvil, 29.5QL chains and 23.15 chain armour smithing, I still can't make the jacket. I get the option to make a chain jacket with a 31ql anvil and 23 chain smithing, so I've changed the page.

--[[User:Mallaboro|Mallaboro]] 19:10, 11 August 2010 (GMT)

== Note ==

Can anyone verify the accuracy of the note? It sort of conflicts with the skill requirement and large anvil QL on [[chain armour smithing]]. --[[User:Xsamuraizx|Xsamuraizx]] 22:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

== Note ==
I was able to make make chain jacket at 7% chance at 13.79 Chain armour smithing with 77.08ql anvil. This info might be helpful for anyone that's looking to complete Smithing Journal.
--[[User:Kaelygon|Kaelygon]] 18:15, 23 September 15.17 (GMT)

== Note ==
Has any more insights been made into creation chance vs chain smithing skill + anvil ql? Can this information be added to the main chain jacket page so it's not partly hidden in the talks section? --[[User:Nekrolysis|Nekrolysis]] ([[User talk:Nekrolysis|talk]]) 17:44, 18 September 2024 (PDT)

== Note ==
As a new player on Guidance (max skill lvl 30), I aimed for the data point indicating allowed creationg attempt of chain jacket at 26 chain smithing skill and 22 QL anvil. This did not work with QL 22.28 armor chains. The data point I was refering to is over 10 years old, so the algorithm could have changed since then, or it could be that higher QL chains are sufficient. I have updated my own data point, and will update with more whenever I get both skill, anvil and chains closer to 30 --[[User:Sigmundr|Sigmundr]] ([[User talk:Sigmundr|talk]]) 16:09, 12 January 2025 (CET)

Talk:Chain jacket

2025-01-12T15:09:14Z

Sigmundr:

Put in the skill requirement for crafting the chain jacket.

: It's not a skill requirement, it's based on the total success rate. Thus if you have a good anvil you need less skill, while a bad anvil requires more skill. - [[User:Dashiva|Dashiva]] 16:39, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

===Possible skill calculator?===
I helped somebody a few days ago with them making a jacket, they had a 20ql anvil and 20something skill, they were not able to make the jacket. When he got a 22ql anvil and 26 skill he was able to. Also, 2 maps ago i experimented with this, i found that starting at 70, for every 1 anvil QL you have, you will need 2 less skill..it fits in both of these encounters. But, as i have no fact and only 2 tests and i dont plan on testing this again (too much work!), i wont put up this anywhere >.>

--[[User:Artibaton|Artibaton]] 05:53, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

: The note on the article page says 50 QL anvil and 19 skill, which doesn't really fit. There's also a very high probability that armour smithing skill plays a part (although minor), maybe misc items skill as well. I believe the only practical indicator is to look at your success rate at creating armour chains. It should depend on the same factors, so we don't have to worry about the specific variables. - [[User:Dashiva|Dashiva]] 11:24, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

===Known data points===
(Please add more data points if you have them.)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! large anvil Ql !! Chain armour smithing !! chain barding % !! armour chains % !! creation attempt allowed?
|-
| 34.2 || 22.02 || 8 || 64 || no
|-
| 34.1 || 22.31 || 9 || 66 || yes
|-
| 20 || 20something || ? || ? || no
|-
| 22 || 26 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 30.5 || 23.15 || ? || ? || no
|-
| 31 || 23 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 77.08 || 13.79 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 22.44 || 26.07 || 8 || 22.28 || no
|}

===† Tagged for Innacuracy===
With a 30.5QL large anvil, 29.5QL chains and 23.15 chain armour smithing, I still can't make the jacket. I get the option to make a chain jacket with a 31ql anvil and 23 chain smithing, so I've changed the page.

--[[User:Mallaboro|Mallaboro]] 19:10, 11 August 2010 (GMT)

== Note ==

Can anyone verify the accuracy of the note? It sort of conflicts with the skill requirement and large anvil QL on [[chain armour smithing]]. --[[User:Xsamuraizx|Xsamuraizx]] 22:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

== Note ==
I was able to make make chain jacket at 7% chance at 13.79 Chain armour smithing with 77.08ql anvil. This info might be helpful for anyone that's looking to complete Smithing Journal.
--[[User:Kaelygon|Kaelygon]] 18:15, 23 September 15.17 (GMT)

== Note ==
Has any more insights been made into creation chance vs chain smithing skill + anvil ql? Can this information be added to the main chain jacket page so it's not partly hidden in the talks section? --[[User:Nekrolysis|Nekrolysis]] ([[User talk:Nekrolysis|talk]]) 17:44, 18 September 2024 (PDT)

== Note ==
As a new player on Guidance (max skill lvl 30), I aimed for the data point indicating allowed creationg attempt of chain jacket at 26 chain smithing skill and 22 QL anvil. This did not work with QL 22.28 armor chains. The data point I was refering to is over 10 years old, so the algorithm could have changed since then, or it could be that higher QL chains are sufficient. I have updated my own data point, and will update with more whenever I get both skill, anvil and chains closer to 30

Talk:Chain jacket

2025-01-12T15:04:20Z

Sigmundr: /* Known data points */

Put in the skill requirement for crafting the chain jacket.

: It's not a skill requirement, it's based on the total success rate. Thus if you have a good anvil you need less skill, while a bad anvil requires more skill. - [[User:Dashiva|Dashiva]] 16:39, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

===Possible skill calculator?===
I helped somebody a few days ago with them making a jacket, they had a 20ql anvil and 20something skill, they were not able to make the jacket. When he got a 22ql anvil and 26 skill he was able to. Also, 2 maps ago i experimented with this, i found that starting at 70, for every 1 anvil QL you have, you will need 2 less skill..it fits in both of these encounters. But, as i have no fact and only 2 tests and i dont plan on testing this again (too much work!), i wont put up this anywhere >.>

--[[User:Artibaton|Artibaton]] 05:53, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

: The note on the article page says 50 QL anvil and 19 skill, which doesn't really fit. There's also a very high probability that armour smithing skill plays a part (although minor), maybe misc items skill as well. I believe the only practical indicator is to look at your success rate at creating armour chains. It should depend on the same factors, so we don't have to worry about the specific variables. - [[User:Dashiva|Dashiva]] 11:24, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

===Known data points===
(Please add more data points if you have them.)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! large anvil Ql !! Chain armour smithing !! chain barding % !! armour chains % !! creation attempt allowed?
|-
| 34.2 || 22.02 || 8 || 64 || no
|-
| 34.1 || 22.31 || 9 || 66 || yes
|-
| 20 || 20something || ? || ? || no
|-
| 22 || 26 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 30.5 || 23.15 || ? || ? || no
|-
| 31 || 23 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 77.08 || 13.79 || ? || ? || yes
|-
| 22.44 || 26.07 || 8 || 22.28 || no
|}

===† Tagged for Innacuracy===
With a 30.5QL large anvil, 29.5QL chains and 23.15 chain armour smithing, I still can't make the jacket. I get the option to make a chain jacket with a 31ql anvil and 23 chain smithing, so I've changed the page.

--[[User:Mallaboro|Mallaboro]] 19:10, 11 August 2010 (GMT)

== Note ==

Can anyone verify the accuracy of the note? It sort of conflicts with the skill requirement and large anvil QL on [[chain armour smithing]]. --[[User:Xsamuraizx|Xsamuraizx]] 22:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

== Note ==
I was able to make make chain jacket at 7% chance at 13.79 Chain armour smithing with 77.08ql anvil. This info might be helpful for anyone that's looking to complete Smithing Journal.
--[[User:Kaelygon|Kaelygon]] 18:15, 23 September 15.17 (GMT)

== Note ==
Has any more insights been made into creation chance vs chain smithing skill + anvil ql? Can this information be added to the main chain jacket page so it's not partly hidden in the talks section? --[[User:Nekrolysis|Nekrolysis]] ([[User talk:Nekrolysis|talk]]) 17:44, 18 September 2024 (PDT)