Talk:Chain jacket - Revision history

Sigmundr at 21:27, 19 January 2025

2025-01-19T21:27:21Z

Sigmundr: /* Known data points */

2025-01-19T21:23:35Z

Known data points

Sigmundr: /* Known data points */

2025-01-12T15:13:50Z

Known data points

Sigmundr at 15:10, 12 January 2025

2025-01-12T15:10:12Z

Sigmundr at 15:09, 12 January 2025

2025-01-12T15:09:14Z

Sigmundr: /* Known data points */

2025-01-12T15:04:20Z

Known data points

Qevv: /* Known data points */ enter success transition point

2024-10-14T23:50:09Z

Known data points: enter success transition point

Qevv: /* Known data points */ newer data

2024-10-14T23:13:00Z

Known data points: newer data

Qevv: Gather known data points into a table for easier review and comparison.

2024-10-14T22:20:43Z

Gather known data points into a table for easier review and comparison.

Nekrolysis: /* Note */

2024-09-19T00:44:10Z

Note

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	== Note ==		== Note ==
	As a new player on Guidance (max skill lvl 30), I aimed for the data point indicating allowed creationg attempt of chain jacket at 26 chain smithing skill and 22 QL anvil. This did not work with QL 22.28 armor chains. The data point I was refering to is over 10 years old, so the algorithm could have changed since then, or it could be that higher QL chains are sufficient. I have updated my own data point, and will update with more whenever I get both skill, anvil and chains closer to 30 --[[User:Sigmundr\|Sigmundr]] ([[User talk:Sigmundr\|talk]]) 16:09, 12 January 2025 (CET)		As a new player on Guidance (max skill lvl 30), I aimed for the data point indicating allowed creationg attempt of chain jacket at 26 chain smithing skill and 22 QL anvil. This did not work with QL 22.28 armor chains. The data point I was refering to is over 10 years old, so the algorithm could have changed since then, or it could be that higher QL chains are sufficient. I have updated my own data point, and will update with more whenever I get both skill, anvil and chains closer to 30 --[[User:Sigmundr\|Sigmundr]] ([[User talk:Sigmundr\|talk]]) 16:09, 12 January 2025 (CET)
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		+	== Note ==
		+	Was finally able to do it. I added the result to the data point matrix. It seems getting either 65% or 66% armor chain creation chance is adequate for getting a creation chance on the chain jacket. I found that a 50% mix between anvil QL and chain armor smithing skill is the most effective approach, with perhaps a slightly heavier impact coming from the anvil rather than the skill. --[[User:Sigmundr\|Sigmundr]] ([[User talk:Sigmundr\|talk]]) 22:27, 19 January 2025 (CET)

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 | 22.44 || 26.07 || 8 || 64 || no
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 | 77.08 || 13.79 || ? || ? || yes
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-| 22.44 || 26.07 || 8 || 22.28 || no
+| 22.44 || 26.07 || 8 || 64 || no
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	== Note ==		== Note ==
−	As a new player on Guidance (max skill lvl 30), I aimed for the data point indicating allowed creationg attempt of chain jacket at 26 chain smithing skill and 22 QL anvil. This did not work with QL 22.28 armor chains. The data point I was refering to is over 10 years old, so the algorithm could have changed since then, or it could be that higher QL chains are sufficient. I have updated my own data point, and will update with more whenever I get both skill, anvil and chains closer to 30	+	As a new player on Guidance (max skill lvl 30), I aimed for the data point indicating allowed creationg attempt of chain jacket at 26 chain smithing skill and 22 QL anvil. This did not work with QL 22.28 armor chains. The data point I was refering to is over 10 years old, so the algorithm could have changed since then, or it could be that higher QL chains are sufficient. I have updated my own data point, and will update with more whenever I get both skill, anvil and chains closer to 30 --[[User:Sigmundr\|Sigmundr]] ([[User talk:Sigmundr\|talk]]) 16:09, 12 January 2025 (CET)

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	== Note ==		== Note ==
	Has any more insights been made into creation chance vs chain smithing skill + anvil ql? Can this information be added to the main chain jacket page so it's not partly hidden in the talks section? --[[User:Nekrolysis\|Nekrolysis]] ([[User talk:Nekrolysis\|talk]]) 17:44, 18 September 2024 (PDT)		Has any more insights been made into creation chance vs chain smithing skill + anvil ql? Can this information be added to the main chain jacket page so it's not partly hidden in the talks section? --[[User:Nekrolysis\|Nekrolysis]] ([[User talk:Nekrolysis\|talk]]) 17:44, 18 September 2024 (PDT)
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		+	== Note ==
		+	As a new player on Guidance (max skill lvl 30), I aimed for the data point indicating allowed creationg attempt of chain jacket at 26 chain smithing skill and 22 QL anvil. This did not work with QL 22.28 armor chains. The data point I was refering to is over 10 years old, so the algorithm could have changed since then, or it could be that higher QL chains are sufficient. I have updated my own data point, and will update with more whenever I get both skill, anvil and chains closer to 30

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 | 34.2 || 22.02 || 8 || 64 || no
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 | 20 || 20something || ? || ? || no

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 ! large anvil Ql !! Chain armour smithing !! chain barding % !! armour chains % !! creation attempt allowed?
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-| 34.2 || 21.27 || 8 || 63 || no
+| 34.2 || 22.02 || 8 || 64 || no
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 | 20 || 20something || ? || ? || no

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	: The note on the article page says 50 QL anvil and 19 skill, which doesn't really fit. There's also a very high probability that armour smithing skill plays a part (although minor), maybe misc items skill as well. I believe the only practical indicator is to look at your success rate at creating armour chains. It should depend on the same factors, so we don't have to worry about the specific variables. - [[User:Dashiva\|Dashiva]] 11:24, 1 August 2007 (CDT)		: The note on the article page says 50 QL anvil and 19 skill, which doesn't really fit. There's also a very high probability that armour smithing skill plays a part (although minor), maybe misc items skill as well. I believe the only practical indicator is to look at your success rate at creating armour chains. It should depend on the same factors, so we don't have to worry about the specific variables. - [[User:Dashiva\|Dashiva]] 11:24, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

		+	===Known data points===
		+	(Please add more data points if you have them.)
		+
		+	{\| class="wikitable"
		+	\|-
		+	! large anvil Ql !! Chain armour smithing !! chain barding % !! armour chains % !! creation attempt allowed?
		+	\|-
		+	\| 34.2 \|\| 21.27 \|\| 8 \|\| 63 \|\| no
		+	\|-
		+	\| 20 \|\| 20something \|\| ? \|\| ? \|\| no
		+	\|-
		+	\| 22 \|\| 26 \|\| ? \|\| ? \|\| yes
		+	\|-
		+	\| 30.5 \|\| 23.15 \|\| ? \|\| ? \|\| no
		+	\|-
		+	\| 31 \|\| 23 \|\| ? \|\| ? \|\| yes
		+	\|-
		+	\| 77.08 \|\| 13.79 \|\| ? \|\| ? \|\| yes
		+	\|}

	===† Tagged for Innacuracy===		===† Tagged for Innacuracy===

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	== Note ==		== Note ==
−	Has any more insights been made into creation chance vs chain smithing skill + anvil ql? Can this information be added to the main chain jacket page so it's not partly hidden in the talks section?	+	Has any more insights been made into creation chance vs chain smithing skill + anvil ql? Can this information be added to the main chain jacket page so it's not partly hidden in the talks section? --[[User:Nekrolysis\|Nekrolysis]] ([[User talk:Nekrolysis\|talk]]) 17:44, 18 September 2024 (PDT)