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		<title>Ago: low skill has a modifier</title>
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		<updated>2010-09-16T20:26:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;low skill has a modifier&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 20:26, 16 September 2010&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot; &gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* scrapQL: Quality of the wood scrap used for the improve action&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* scrapQL: Quality of the wood scrap used for the improve action&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* fenceQL: Quality if the fence before improving&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* fenceQL: Quality if the fence before improving&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* skill: Carpentry skill&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* skill: Carpentry skill&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;. At low skill the effective skill appears to be 1.36 * real skill (tested on test with 4-8 carpentry skill)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* maxQL: best Quality you can ever reach with the skill and the specific wood scrap&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* maxQL: best Quality you can ever reach with the skill and the specific wood scrap&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* inc: best increment possible with the skill and the specific wood scrap&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* inc: best increment possible with the skill and the specific wood scrap&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ago at 16:56, 16 September 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-09-16T16:56:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l18&quot; &gt;Line 18:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Exact scrap QL: 1.576906 (determined from creating 3 unfinished fences)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Exact scrap QL: 1.576906 (determined from creating 3 unfinished fences)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Exact skill 81.510471-81.522926&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Exact skill 81.510471-81.522926&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The determined error for the maxQL was less than precision of the reported carpentry skill.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ago: Analysis of woven fence improving with numbers and formula</title>
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		<updated>2010-09-16T16:23:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Analysis of woven fence improving with numbers and formula&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I did a series of improves on woven fences and determined the following formulas for improving woven fences with wood scraps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* scrapQL: Quality of the wood scrap used for the improve action&lt;br /&gt;
* fenceQL: Quality if the fence before improving&lt;br /&gt;
* skill: Carpentry skill&lt;br /&gt;
* maxQL: best Quality you can ever reach with the skill and the specific wood scrap&lt;br /&gt;
* inc: best increment possible with the skill and the specific wood scrap&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
maxQL = (skill + scrapQL) / 2;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
inc = (maxQL - fenceQL) / 5;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If the fenceQL is already higher than maxQL you'll get the message ''You cannnot improve the fence with that item and your knowledge''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Example: Using 1.58QL wood scraps and 81.52 carpentry skill the maximum QL a woven fence can be improved to is 41.55QL. &lt;br /&gt;
After improving the fence 10 times it reached 37.36QL. After 20 improve actions it reached 41.10QL and 41.40QL after 25 and 41.50QL after 30 improves.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Exact scrap QL: 1.576906 (determined from creating 3 unfinished fences)&lt;br /&gt;
* Exact skill 81.510471-81.522926&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+ Fence improving example&lt;br /&gt;
! # Improve !! Fence QL&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Start || 2,576906&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 1 || 10,37099&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 2 || 16,606256&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 3 || 21,594471&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 4 || 25,585041&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 5 || 28,777498&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 6 || 31,331463&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 7 || 33,374634&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 8 || 35,00943&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 9 || 36,31727&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 10 || 37,36354&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 11 || 38,200558&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 12 || 38,87017&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 13 || 39,40586&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 14 || 39,83467&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 15 || 40,17798&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 16 || 40,452625&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 17 || 40,672344&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 18 || 40,848118&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 19 || 40,988735&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 20 || 41,10123&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 21 || 41,191227&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 22 || 41,263226&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 23 || 41,320824&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 24 || 41,3669&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 25 || 41,403763&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 26 || 41,433254&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 27 || 41,456844&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 28 || 41,47572&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 29 || 41,491077&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 30 || 41,503365&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Ago|Ago]] 16:23, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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