Talk:Keel section - Revision history

Nume: cleanup of 2008 discussions that don't mean anything anymore.

2021-09-23T11:14:22Z

cleanup of 2008 discussions that don't mean anything anymore.

Ostentatio: /* Creation Success Rate */ new section

2021-09-22T19:39:56Z

Creation Success Rate: new section

Xsamuraizx: Fixed to be removed from category item.

2010-09-30T19:26:27Z

Fixed to be removed from category item.

Norill at 12:36, 1 June 2009

2009-06-01T12:36:30Z

Ulviirala: /* Notes */

2009-06-01T05:04:09Z

Notes

Ulviirala: /* Notes */

2009-06-01T05:03:17Z

Notes

Ulviirala: /* Notes */

2009-06-01T04:49:02Z

Notes

Ulviirala: /* Notes */

2009-06-01T04:45:38Z

Notes

Magen at 23:46, 31 May 2009

2009-05-31T23:46:58Z

Dashiva: Skill

2008-11-26T02:12:29Z

Skill

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−	~~Hatchet works. Tried using a large axe, didn't work. Probably not going to work with other axes either, but doesn't hurt to try. - [[User:Dashiva\|Dashiva]] 17:54, 2 May 2008 (CDT)~~
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−	In the description it talks about the keel being destroyed on a failed creation attemp, and although it is related to a keel section, this only happens when making a ship. A failed creation attempt on the keel section just results in wood scraps 1 @ 30, and 1 @ 60.
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−	~~Perhaps this would be a possible way of showing it... see table.~~
−
−	~~<pre>~~
−	~~{{Item~~
−	~~\|name=keel section~~
−	~~\|active=[[hatchet]]~~
−	~~\|passive=[[felled tree]] (90.00 kg)~~
−	~~\|group=Miscellaneous~~
−	~~\|materials=* None~~
−	~~\|result=* 1 '''{{PAGENAME}}''' (60.00 kg)~~
−	* 1 [[wood scrap]] (30.00 kg)
−	~~==OR==~~
−	*1 [[wood scrap]] (30.00 kg)
−	* 1 [[wood scrap]] (60.00 kg)
−	~~\|skill=ship building~~
−	~~\|improve=carpentry~~
−	}}
−	~~</pre>~~
−
−	~~[[User:Stika 1\|Stika 1]] 22:37, 20 August 2008 (CDT)~~
−
−	~~== Skill ==~~
−
−	~~Confirmed to use ship building. - [[User:Dashiva\|Dashiva]] 20:12, 25 November 2008 (CST)~~
−
−	~~== Notes ==~~
−
−	~~I was building a Corbita today. I found that what the wikki is saying is wrong when attaching the two keel sections I found it to be this way instead:~~
−
−	*The quality of the passive keel section affects the initial quality of the ship.
−	*The quality of the active keel section affects the success chance when creating a ship.
−	*The active keel section is lost when you fail creating a ship.
−
−	~~Can anyone confirm this before I change it?~~
−	~~:=== [[User:Ulviirala\|Ulviirala]] 23:45, 31 May 2009 (CDT) ===~~
−	~~:Active keel section QL11.43, passive QL4.69~~
−	~~::*Cog; 13%~~
−	~~::*Corbita: 24% (failed creating btw, the QL4.69 was damaged, the QL11.43 was lost)~~
−	~~::*Small sailing boat: 37%~~
−	~~::*Small rowing boat: 55%~~
−	~~:Active keel section QL4.69, passive QL11.43~~
−	~~::*Cog: 11%~~
−	~~::*Corbita: 21%~~
−	~~::*Small sailing boat: 33%~~
−	~~::*Small rowing boat: 50%~~
−	~~:<s>Looks like it's correct to me. Maybe you're confusing something? Tired? :)</s>~~
−	:<s>LOL sorry... you had '''me''' confused now, but yea... you're right, it's always been like you said, with every ship. So I checked the article history and I just refined the old article ealier, which was already wrong.</s>
−	:On a second thought, no... I remember that the passive one used to affect the success chance. It was a pain when I made my first corbita back then in november or september... and I didn't worry too much about the active section at all. Anyway, you're confirmed, even though this change is weird and came unnoticed shakes fist at [[User:Rolf]] :P
−	~~:=== end of [[User:Ulviirala\|Ulviirala]] 23:45, 31 May 2009 (CDT) ===~~
−	::*yea, i remember that it was the passive one that affected chance when i was making my cog. but when i was making a the rig some time later it was the active item (mast) affecting chance. [[User:Norill\|Norill]]
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	== Creation Success Rate ==		== Creation Success Rate ==

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	::*yea, i remember that it was the passive one that affected chance when i was making my cog. but when i was making a the rig some time later it was the active item (mast) affecting chance. [[User:Norill\|Norill]]		::*yea, i remember that it was the passive one that affected chance when i was making my cog. but when i was making a the rig some time later it was the active item (mast) affecting chance. [[User:Norill\|Norill]]
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		+	== Creation Success Rate ==
		+
		+	Moving this here from the article proper as per wiki policy. Not my data and I can't confirm its accuracy; I'm just moving it!
		+
		+	{\| class="sortable" style="background: #f9f9f9;" border="1px" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4"
		+	! style="background: #f2f2f2; width: 150px;"\|Shipbuilding skill !! style="background: #f2f2f2;"\|Keel QL !! style="background: #f2f2f2;"\|[[Rowing boat\|Small Rowing Boat]] !! style="background: #f2f2f2;"\|[[Small Sailing Boat]] !! style="background: #f2f2f2;"\|[[Corbita]] !! style="background: #f2f2f2;"\|[[Cog]] !! style="background: #f2f2f2;"\|[[Knarr]] !! style="background: #f2f2f2;"\|[[Caravel]]
		+	\|-
		+	\| 16
		+	\| 25 \|\| 49% \|\| 32% \|\| 19% \|\| 9% \|\| N/A \|\| N/A
		+	\|-
		+	\| 28
		+	\| 25 \|\| 62% \|\| 44% \|\| 30% \|\| 18% \|\| 9% \|\| N/A
		+	\|-
		+	\| 29
		+	\| 40 \|\| 70% \|\| 52% \|\| 38% \|\| 24% \|\| 13% \|\| N/A
		+	\|-
		+	\| 40
		+	\| 42 \|\| 80% \|\| 64% \|\| 50% \|\| 35% \|\| 21% \|\| 10%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 50
		+	\| 40 \|\| 85% \|\| 71% \|\| 57% \|\| 42% \|\| 27% \|\| 14%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 50
		+	\| 42 \|\| 86% \|\| 72% \|\| 59% \|\| 44% \|\| 28% \|\| 15%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 50
		+	\| 50 \|\| 89% \|\| 77% \|\| 64% \|\| 49% \|\| 34% \|\| 20%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 60
		+	\| 42 \|\| 90% \|\| 79% \|\| 66% \|\| 51% \|\| 35% \|\| 21%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 60
		+	\| 60 \|\| 95% \|\| 88% \|\| 78% \|\| 65% \|\| 50% \|\| 33%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 65
		+	\| 42 \|\| 92% \|\| 81% \|\| 68% \|\| 54% \|\| 39% \|\| 24%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 65
		+	\| 60 \|\| 96% \|\| 90% \|\| 81% \|\| 68% \|\| 53% \|\| 37%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 70
		+	\| 42 \|\| 93% \|\| 85% \|\| 73% \|\| 59% \|\| 42% \|\| 27%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 70
		+	\| 60 \|\| 97% \|\| 92% \|\| 84% \|\| 72% \|\| 58% \|\| 41%
		+	\|-
		+	\|70
		+	\|70 \|\| 98% \|\| 95% \|\| 89% \|\| 79% \|\| 66% \|\| 50%
		+	\|-
		+	\|80
		+	\|80 \|\| 99% \|\| 98% \|\| 95% \|\| 90% \|\| 80% \|\| 67%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 90
		+	\| 60 \|\| 99% \|\| 97% \|\| 93% \|\| 85% \|\| 74% \|\| 58%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 90
		+	\| 82 \|\| 99% \|\| 99% \|\| 97% \|\| 94% \|\| 88% \|\| 77%
		+	\|-
		+	\|}

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 Perhaps this would be a possible way of showing it... see table.
 {{Item
 |name=keel section
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 |improve=carpentry
 }}
+</pre>
 [[User:Stika 1|Stika 1]] 22:37, 20 August 2008 (CDT)

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	:On a second thought, no... I remember that the passive one used to affect the success chance. It was a pain when I made my first corbita back then in november or september... and I didn't worry too much about the active section at all. Anyway, you're confirmed, even though this change is weird and came unnoticed shakes fist at [[User:Rolf]] :P		:On a second thought, no... I remember that the passive one used to affect the success chance. It was a pain when I made my first corbita back then in november or september... and I didn't worry too much about the active section at all. Anyway, you're confirmed, even though this change is weird and came unnoticed shakes fist at [[User:Rolf]] :P
	:=== end of [[User:Ulviirala\|Ulviirala]] 23:45, 31 May 2009 (CDT) ===		:=== end of [[User:Ulviirala\|Ulviirala]] 23:45, 31 May 2009 (CDT) ===
		+	::*yea, i remember that it was the passive one that affected chance when i was making my cog. but when i was making a the rig some time later it was the active item (mast) affecting chance. [[User:Norill\|Norill]]

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 :<s>Looks like it's correct to me. Maybe you're confusing something? Tired? :)</s>
 :<s>LOL sorry... you had '''me''' confused now, but yea... you're right, it's always been like you said, with every ship. So I checked the article history and I just refined the old article ealier, which was already wrong.</s>
-:On a second thought, no... I remember that the passive one used to affect the success chance. It was a pain when I made my first corbita back then in november or september... and I didn't worry too much about the active section at all. Anyway, you're confirmed, even though this change is weird and came unnoticed *shakes fist at [[Rolf]]* :P
+:On a second thought, no... I remember that the passive one used to affect the success chance. It was a pain when I made my first corbita back then in november or september... and I didn't worry too much about the active section at all. Anyway, you're confirmed, even though this change is weird and came unnoticed *shakes fist at [[User:Rolf]]* :P
 :=== end of [[User:Ulviirala|Ulviirala]] 23:45, 31 May 2009 (CDT) ===

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 ::*Small sailing boat: 33%
 ::*Small rowing boat: 50%
-:Looks like it's correct to me. Maybe you're confusing something? Tired? :)
+:<s>Looks like it's correct to me. Maybe you're confusing something? Tired? :)</s>
 :=== end of [[User:Ulviirala|Ulviirala]] 23:45, 31 May 2009 (CDT) ===

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	Can anyone confirm this before I change it?		Can anyone confirm this before I change it?
		+	:=== [[User:Ulviirala\|Ulviirala]] 23:45, 31 May 2009 (CDT) ===
		+	:Active keel section QL11.43, passive QL4.69
		+	::*Cog; 13%
		+	::*Corbita: 24% (failed creating btw, the QL4.69 was damaged, the QL11.43 was lost)
		+	::*Small sailing boat: 37%
		+	::*Small rowing boat: 55%
		+	:Active keel section QL4.69, passive QL11.43
		+	::*Cog: 11%
		+	::*Corbita: 21%
		+	::*Small sailing boat: 33%
		+	::*Small rowing boat: 50%
		+	:Looks like it's correct to me. Maybe you're confusing something? Tired? :)
		+	:=== end of [[User:Ulviirala\|Ulviirala]] 23:45, 31 May 2009 (CDT) ===

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	Confirmed to use ship building. - [[User:Dashiva\|Dashiva]] 20:12, 25 November 2008 (CST)		Confirmed to use ship building. - [[User:Dashiva\|Dashiva]] 20:12, 25 November 2008 (CST)
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		+	== Notes ==
		+
		+	I was building a Corbita today. I found that what the wikki is saying is wrong when attaching the two keel sections I found it to be this way instead:
		+
		+	*The quality of the passive keel section affects the initial quality of the ship.
		+	*The quality of the active keel section affects the success chance when creating a ship.
		+	*The active keel section is lost when you fail creating a ship.
		+
		+	Can anyone confirm this before I change it?

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	[[User:Stika 1\|Stika 1]] 22:37, 20 August 2008 (CDT)		[[User:Stika 1\|Stika 1]] 22:37, 20 August 2008 (CDT)
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		+	== Skill ==
		+
		+	Confirmed to use ship building. - [[User:Dashiva\|Dashiva]] 20:12, 25 November 2008 (CST)