Talk:Mining - Revision history

Dirk at 05:08, 25 April 2023

2023-04-25T05:08:32Z

Dirk: /* How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality */

2023-04-25T05:06:28Z

How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality

Dirk: /* How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality */

2023-04-25T05:04:18Z

How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality

Dirk: /* How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality */

2022-11-18T07:21:34Z

How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality

Dirk: /* How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality */

2022-11-18T07:21:05Z

How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality

Dirk: /* How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality */

2022-11-18T07:19:48Z

How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality

Dirk: /* How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality */

2022-11-18T07:15:30Z

How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality

Dirk: /* How Skill and Max Quality Ore Are Related */

2022-11-18T07:14:43Z

How Skill and Max Quality Ore Are Related

Dirk: /* How Skill and Max Quality Ore Are Related */

2022-11-18T06:47:07Z

How Skill and Max Quality Ore Are Related

Dirk: /* How Skill and Max Quality Ore Are Related */

2022-11-18T06:46:02Z

How Skill and Max Quality Ore Are Related

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 '''1) Too Long Didn't Read''': Below are some data on how the bonus to max quality ore from [[Rarity_system|rarity]] and [[Potion_of_mining|mining imbue]] and how it changes with skill.
-In summary, the higher your skill, the smaller the bonus is from rarity and mining imbue. Many people have speculated/casually observed this was the case, the data below proves it.
+In summary, the higher your skill, the smaller the bonus is from rarity and mining imbue. Many people have speculated or casually observed this, the data below proves it.
-'''2) To Calculate Max QL From Skill Etc.''': You can use the formulas below to calulate what skill you need to get the ore you want or vice versa.
+'''2) To Calculate Max QL From Skill Or Vice Versa''': You can use the formulas below to calulate what skill you need to get the ore you want or vice versa.
 - Plug in any mining skill for X and solve for Y to get the max ore ql.

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	'''1) Too Long Didn't Read''': Below are some data on how the bonus to max quality ore from [[Rarity_system\|rarity]] and [[Potion_of_mining\|mining imbue]] and how it changes with skill.		'''1) Too Long Didn't Read''': Below are some data on how the bonus to max quality ore from [[Rarity_system\|rarity]] and [[Potion_of_mining\|mining imbue]] and how it changes with skill.

−	In summary, the higher your skill, the smaller the bonus is from rarity and mining imbue.	+	In summary, the higher your skill, the smaller the bonus is from rarity and mining imbue. Many people have speculated/casually observed this was the case, the data below proves it.

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	By Dirk (11/07/2022)		By Dirk (11/07/2022)

−	'''1) Too Long Didn't Read''': Below are some data on how the bonus to max quality ore from [[Rarity_system\|rarity]] and [[Potion_of_mining\|mining imbue]] and how it changes with skill. In summary, the higher your skill, the smaller the bonus is from rarity and mining imbue.	+	'''1) Too Long Didn't Read''': Below are some data on how the bonus to max quality ore from [[Rarity_system\|rarity]] and [[Potion_of_mining\|mining imbue]] and how it changes with skill.
		+
		+	In summary, the higher your skill, the smaller the bonus is from rarity and mining imbue.

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 '''5) Additional Notes:'''
--The above data were collected after the recent update to mining imbue that happend fall of 2022.
+-The above data were collected after the update to mining imbue that happened fall of 2022.
 -I'm not sure if it's relevant, but my pickaxe skill was always 1-2 points above my mining skill when these data were collected and both supreme and rare pickaxes were around 90 ql. The supreme pickaxe also had the +10% gather rune which does not currently affect the max ql.

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 -I'm not sure if it's relevant, but my pickaxe skill was always 1-2 points above my mining skill when these data were collected and both supreme and rare pickaxes were around 90 ql. The supreme pickaxe also had the +10% gather rune which does not currently affect the max ql.
--Here's a post and graph from Retrograde in 2020 on gather imbue:
+-Here's a post and graph by Retrograde from  12/29/2020 on gather imbue:
 https://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/181865-imbue-rework-formula/\

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 -The above data were collected after the recent update to mining imbue that happend fall of 2022.
--I'm not sure if it's relevant, but my pickaxe skill was always 1-2 points above my mining skill when these data were collected and both supreme and rare pickaxes were around 90 ql.
+-I'm not sure if it's relevant, but my pickaxe skill was always 1-2 points above my mining skill when these data were collected and both supreme and rare pickaxes were around 90 ql. The supreme pickaxe also had the +10% gather rune which does not currently affect the max ql.
 -Here's a post and graph from Retrograde in 2020 on gather imbue:
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 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10akDYPouIPWjcd-UAQ9-n1Jrv1KU0u2MvgqXlBoIOkY/edit#gid=0
-- Supreme Bonus (no imbue): *** assuming Retrograde's formula is still accurate***  if you subtract the max ql in Retro's spreadsheet from the max ql data for supreme w/ 100 imbue, that should give you the corresponding data for supreme with no imbue. The supreme bonus is 2x the rare bonus, which is agrees with what's known about supreme vs rare bonuses.
+- Supreme Pickaxe (no imbue): *** assuming Retrograde's formula is still accurate***  if you subtract the max ql in Retro's spreadsheet from the max ql data for supreme w/ 100 imbue, that should give you the corresponding data for supreme with no imbue. The supreme bonus is 2x the rare bonus, which is agrees with what's known about supreme vs rare bonuses.
 Examples:
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 At 80 mining, the 100 imbue is giving you +5.0 ql and supreme is giving you +2.888 ql. (rare bonus at 80 skill is +1.44)
--Rare +100 imbue: Again assuminng Retro's formula is still accurate, you can just add the imbue bonus to the rare (no imbue) data above to get the max qualities using a rare pickaxe with 100 imbue.
+-Rare Pickaxe (100 imbue): Again assuminng Retro's formula is still accurate, you can just add the imbue bonus to the rare (no imbue) data above to predict the max qualities using a rare pickaxe with 100 imbue.

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−	Can someone teach me how to these into a calculator??? PM Dirk in game on WO.	+	Can someone teach me how to make these into a calculator??? PM Dirk in game on WO.

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 --[[User:Zachariah|Zachariah]] ([[User talk:Zachariah|talk]]) 11:16, 20 August 2015 (CEST)
-== How Skill and Max Quality Ore Are Related==
+== How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill Affect Max Ore Quality==
 By Dirk (11/07/2022)

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	At 80 mining, the 100 imbue is giving you +5.0 ql and supreme is giving you +2.888 ql. (rare bonus at 80 skill is +1.44)		At 80 mining, the 100 imbue is giving you +5.0 ql and supreme is giving you +2.888 ql. (rare bonus at 80 skill is +1.44)

−	-Rare +100 imbue: Again assuminng Retro's formula is still accurate, you can just add the imbue bonus to the rare (no imbue) data above to get the max ~~qls with are~~ rare pickaxe with 100 imbue.	+	-Rare +100 imbue: Again assuminng Retro's formula is still accurate, you can just add the imbue bonus to the rare (no imbue) data above to get the max qualities using a rare pickaxe with 100 imbue.