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[[User:Asera|Asera]] ([[User talk:Asera|talk]]) 09:04, 25 June 2013 (CEST)
 
[[User:Asera|Asera]] ([[User talk:Asera|talk]]) 09:04, 25 June 2013 (CEST)
  
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The skill requriement depends on the ore type too. At 62 prospecting silver quality could not be detected at 3 tiles but iron worked. At 68 silver quality was detectable at 3 tiles too. --[[User:Ago|Ago]] ([[User talk:Ago|talk]]) 12:37, 7 July 2013 (CEST)
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I have 27 prospecting and was not given a ql report on the slight trace of ore --~ {{User:Skyefox|Skyefox]] January 4, 2014
  
 
== Skill required for analysis ==
 
== Skill required for analysis ==
I can analyse and detect 'faint' traces with under 35 skill (34.24 when I first noticed) Skill ranges need more confirmation and fine-tuning. [Pottedfrog]
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I can analyse and detect 'faint' traces with under 35 skill (34.24 when I first noticed) Skill ranges need more confirmation and fine-tuning.  
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I also received a message not shown in the lists, namely: [01:58:55] You notice a faint trace of something, but cannot quite make it out.
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Skills: Prospecting 34.72 , Mining 52.92 [[User:Pottedfrog|Pottedfrog]] 1 July 2013
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Between 62 and 68 skill the ability to detect "something" at 5 tiles appeared. --[[User:Ago|Ago]] ([[User talk:Ago|talk]]) 12:37, 7 July 2013 (CEST)
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At 70 skill you can detect iron, tin up to 5 tiles but not silver. --[[User:Ago|Ago]] ([[User talk:Ago|talk]]) 07:20, 8 July 2013 (CEST)
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[15:56:24] You peer at it.
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[15:56:27] You see a vague trace of iron ore.
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[15:56:27] You see a vague trace of something, but cannot quite make it out.
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[16:09:05] You peer at it.
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[16:09:08] You spot a vague trace of tin ore.
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[16:09:08] You see a vague trace of something, but cannot quite make it out.
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== Indistinct trace ==
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I am currently sitting at 86.73 prospecting and analyzed a rock shard with a 70ql pick and a 1ql pick after. Just received this. Looks like we have another tile away we can see.
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-- [[User:Chromega|Chromega]] ([[User talk:Chromega|talk]]) 05:05, 19 July 2013 (CEST)
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Bit of testing and I found I can detect gold 5 tiles away but this '6th' tile comes up with 'You see a indistinct trace of something, but cannot quite make it out.' I can see iron at this distance however. -- [[User:Chromega|Chromega]] ([[User talk:Chromega|talk]]) 05:30, 19 July 2013 (CEST)
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[19:57:40] You start to analyse the shard.
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[19:57:40] Lots of different sized rock shards.
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[19:57:42] You cannot see anything unusual.
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[19:57:42] You take a closer look.
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[19:57:45] You cannot see any unusual slight traces of anything.
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[19:57:45] You study it a bit more.
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[19:57:48] You cannot see anything unusual.
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[19:57:48] You study it real hard.
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[19:57:51] You spot a minuscule trace of acceptable quality iron ore.
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[19:57:51] You peer at it.
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[19:57:54] You see a vague trace of flint.
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[19:57:54] You spot a vague trace of iron ore.
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[19:57:54] You go cross-eyed studying it.
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[19:57:58] You see a indistinct trace of iron ore.
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[19:57:58] You see a indistinct trace of something, but cannot quite make it out.
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[19:57:58] You finish analysing the shard.
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== Analyse with different ore veins ==
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Looks like different vein types have different points when they unlock information in Analyse.  That will complicate things a bit, but if we restructure the table accordingly, we should be fine.  --[[User:Tathar|Tathar]] ([[User talk:Tathar|talk]]) 20:50, 16 February 2016 (CET)
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I'll start with a table for silver, since I just got good info in WU that ore type becomes visible at 41.9 skill.
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{| border=1 style="text-align:center;"
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! colspan='4'| Silver
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|-
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! Distance !! Ore presence !! Ore type !! Ore quality
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|-
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|| Traces (1 tile) || 20 || ?? || ??
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|-
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|| Slight traces (2 tiles) || 20 || ?? || ??
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|-
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|| Faint traces (3 tiles) || ~34 || 41.9 || ??
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|-
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|| Minuscule traces (4 tiles) || ~51 || ?? || ??
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|-
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|| Vague traces (5 tiles) || ~70 || ?? || ??
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|-
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|| Indistinct traces (6 tiles) || ~85 || ?? || ??
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|-
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|}
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--[[User:Tathar|Tathar]] ([[User talk:Tathar|talk]]) 21:05, 16 February 2016 (CET)
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Kgorski's discovered info:
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more detailed table with prospecting skill needed to view '''quality of ore''' : (fileds with "?" are unconfirmed, fields with "-" are still unavailable at 99,746140 prospecting)
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{| border=1 style="text-align:center;"
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|-
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! resource type !! iron !! tin !! zinc !! lead !! copper !! slate !! silver !! marble !! gold !! rocksalt
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|-
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|| Traces (1 tile) || 22 || 24 || 24 || 25 || 26 || 28 || 29 || 30 || 31 || 22?
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|-
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|| Slight traces (2 tiles) || 40 || 41 || 42 || 43 || 44 || 46 || 47 || 48 || 49 || 40?
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|| Faint traces (3 tiles) || 58 || 59 || 60 || 61 || 62 || 64 || 65 || 66 || 67 || 58
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|| Minuscule traces (4 tiles) || 76 || 77 || 78 || 79 || 80 || 82 || 83 || 84 || 85 || 76?
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|-
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|| Vague traces (5 tiles) || 94 || 95 || 96 || 97 || 98 || - || - || - || - || 94?
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|-
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|| Indistinct traces (6 tiles) || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || -
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|-
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|}
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(tables up to date before game update 14 april 2017)
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after that update you will see ql of vein, if you will see presence of it(tested on 2 characters at 60 and 99,75 prospecting)
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I just found that faint traces of Sandstone seem to be unlocked at Prospecting 47, but it was on WU so needs confirmation on WO.
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[20:32:59] You notice a faint trace of something, but cannot quite make it out (south of east).
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[20:33:01] Prospecting increased by 0.0113 to 47.0022
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[20:33:08] You spot a faint trace of good quality sandstone (south of east).
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[[User:Veryth|Veryth]] ([[User talk:Veryth|talk]]) 11:46, 26 March 2019 (CET)

Latest revision as of 11:46, 26 March 2019

It seems you need rougly 35-36 prospecting in order to analyze. Rotab (talk)

Skill needed to analyse ores - only certain types of ore

I just found myself unable to analyse some Zinc ore with level 20 prospecting. (Didn't give me the option) However, I was able to analyse iron just fine.

Either, you need more skill depending on which ore you are analysing, or you can only analyse certain ore types. My guess is the latter. Xandaros (talk) 18:01, 22 June 2013 (CEST)

According to Player:Seara, you are supposed to be able to analyse all rock types. So it is most likely a bug. Xandaros (talk)

It is bug http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/82691-rock-shard-analyzing-in-wurm-11-knowledge-and-speculation/page-2#entry827421 Malcolm (talk) 20:48, 22 June 2013 (CEST)

Skill requirement to get vein quality

According to the current article, you need 20 prospecting to see the quality of a vein 1 tile away. However, I just tried that(on both rock an an actual ore) and could not see ore quality, so I'm guessing you need a bit more prespecting for that. Xandaros (talk) 16:16, 24 June 2013 (CEST)

I know I had it at 25ish prospecting when the update came. Have you gotten any farther along yet? Asera (talk) 09:04, 25 June 2013 (CEST)

The skill requriement depends on the ore type too. At 62 prospecting silver quality could not be detected at 3 tiles but iron worked. At 68 silver quality was detectable at 3 tiles too. --Ago (talk) 12:37, 7 July 2013 (CEST)

I have 27 prospecting and was not given a ql report on the slight trace of ore --~ {{User:Skyefox|Skyefox]] January 4, 2014

Skill required for analysis

I can analyse and detect 'faint' traces with under 35 skill (34.24 when I first noticed) Skill ranges need more confirmation and fine-tuning. I also received a message not shown in the lists, namely: [01:58:55] You notice a faint trace of something, but cannot quite make it out.

Skills: Prospecting 34.72 , Mining 52.92 Pottedfrog 1 July 2013

Between 62 and 68 skill the ability to detect "something" at 5 tiles appeared. --Ago (talk) 12:37, 7 July 2013 (CEST)

At 70 skill you can detect iron, tin up to 5 tiles but not silver. --Ago (talk) 07:20, 8 July 2013 (CEST)

[15:56:24] You peer at it.
[15:56:27] You see a vague trace of iron ore.
[15:56:27] You see a vague trace of something, but cannot quite make it out.
[16:09:05] You peer at it.
[16:09:08] You spot a vague trace of tin ore.
[16:09:08] You see a vague trace of something, but cannot quite make it out.

Indistinct trace

I am currently sitting at 86.73 prospecting and analyzed a rock shard with a 70ql pick and a 1ql pick after. Just received this. Looks like we have another tile away we can see. -- Chromega (talk) 05:05, 19 July 2013 (CEST)

Bit of testing and I found I can detect gold 5 tiles away but this '6th' tile comes up with 'You see a indistinct trace of something, but cannot quite make it out.' I can see iron at this distance however. -- Chromega (talk) 05:30, 19 July 2013 (CEST)

[19:57:40] You start to analyse the shard.
[19:57:40] Lots of different sized rock shards.
[19:57:42] You cannot see anything unusual.
[19:57:42] You take a closer look.
[19:57:45] You cannot see any unusual slight traces of anything.
[19:57:45] You study it a bit more.
[19:57:48] You cannot see anything unusual.
[19:57:48] You study it real hard.
[19:57:51] You spot a minuscule trace of acceptable quality iron ore.
[19:57:51] You peer at it.
[19:57:54] You see a vague trace of flint.
[19:57:54] You spot a vague trace of iron ore.
[19:57:54] You go cross-eyed studying it.
[19:57:58] You see a indistinct trace of iron ore.
[19:57:58] You see a indistinct trace of something, but cannot quite make it out.
[19:57:58] You finish analysing the shard.

Analyse with different ore veins

Looks like different vein types have different points when they unlock information in Analyse. That will complicate things a bit, but if we restructure the table accordingly, we should be fine. --Tathar (talk) 20:50, 16 February 2016 (CET)

I'll start with a table for silver, since I just got good info in WU that ore type becomes visible at 41.9 skill.

Silver
Distance Ore presence Ore type Ore quality
Traces (1 tile) 20 ?? ??
Slight traces (2 tiles) 20 ?? ??
Faint traces (3 tiles) ~34 41.9 ??
Minuscule traces (4 tiles) ~51 ?? ??
Vague traces (5 tiles) ~70 ?? ??
Indistinct traces (6 tiles) ~85 ?? ??

--Tathar (talk) 21:05, 16 February 2016 (CET)


Kgorski's discovered info:


more detailed table with prospecting skill needed to view quality of ore : (fileds with "?" are unconfirmed, fields with "-" are still unavailable at 99,746140 prospecting)

resource type iron tin zinc lead copper slate silver marble gold rocksalt
Traces (1 tile) 22 24 24 25 26 28 29 30 31 22?
Slight traces (2 tiles) 40 41 42 43 44 46 47 48 49 40?
Faint traces (3 tiles) 58 59 60 61 62 64 65 66 67 58
Minuscule traces (4 tiles) 76 77 78 79 80 82 83 84 85 76?
Vague traces (5 tiles) 94 95 96 97 98 - - - - 94?
Indistinct traces (6 tiles) - - - - - - - - - -

(tables up to date before game update 14 april 2017) after that update you will see ql of vein, if you will see presence of it(tested on 2 characters at 60 and 99,75 prospecting)


I just found that faint traces of Sandstone seem to be unlocked at Prospecting 47, but it was on WU so needs confirmation on WO.

[20:32:59] You notice a faint trace of something, but cannot quite make it out (south of east).
[20:33:01] Prospecting increased by 0.0113 to 47.0022
[20:33:08] You spot a faint trace of good quality sandstone (south of east).

Veryth (talk) 11:46, 26 March 2019 (CET)