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Need some input on the following.
 
Need some input on the following.
  
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==[[Bread]]==
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==[[Casserole]]==
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==[[Gulasch]]==
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==Porridge==
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I am seeing a pattern here in water based dishes.  While in the case of Gulasch, you don't need water but it still works.  It uses the same water to food ratio that I found for porridge: At the most .02kg of water for every .30kg of food.  An easy way to get a proper ratio is to fill an empty sauce pan, use that water to fill an empty water skin.  You now would have .04kg of water so just put in .60k or more of food. -AvatarJTC
 
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==[[Meal]]==
 
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26.47ql meal made of : 2x black bear meat (low ql, 10ish), onion (50ish ql), and basil (20ish ql) gave me nutrition 71% consistently. I'm getting this from most hot meals, while losing 1 or 2% from eating it cold. [[User:Othobrithol|Othobrithol]] 16:06, 27 May 2009 (CDT)
 
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ql14.83 meal made of loads of cooked meat (random ql), onion (ql45ish), and a herb (random ql) gives me 69% consistently. --[[User:Ulviirala|Ulviirala]] 03:18, 28 May 2009 (CDT)
 
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At my cooking skill level (approx 27 as shown above) all "hot" meals I make are pushing me up to a max of 73% (usually 72%), and down to 65% (usually 68%) when cold. Ialways make simple meals (mass of meat + one veggie). [[User:Othobrithol|Othobrithol]] 05:04, 30 June 2009 (CDT)
 
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Using my alt, 22.67 meal (2x deer meat, potato, lovage) hot gives 72% as well. [[User:Othobrithol|Othobrithol]] 05:55, 2 July 2009 (CDT)
 
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QL81 meal hot gives around 82 or 83% nutrition. - [[User:Thorgot|thorgot]] 07:59, 2 July 2009 (CDT)
 
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Tried making a more complex meal set (cooked meat, pumpkin, garlic, 2 veggies, and 2 spices) which again, gave me 72% when hot at 24ql. Meal recipe seems to have no effect on nutrtion levels, but this would still be nice to check for the components with subskills (bread and cheese). [[User:Othobrithol|Othobrithol]] 16:28, 6 July 2009 (CDT)
 
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:It seemed to have an effect before the last official ''tweak'', as I was getting more nut from my 14QL meals than other people with higher QL meals. Anyway, getting 69% consistently and 60% for cold meals. -[[User:Ulviirala|Ulviirala]] 05:27, 7 July 2009 (CDT)
 
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To me it seems to make a difference if i eat the meal in a house on deed or not. Searing hot (86%) and (82%) is different too (both on deed in a house, 76ql meal).--[[User:KaiH|KaiH]] 14:53, 31 July 2009 (CDT)
 
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===Meal Nutrition Table===
 
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{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center;"
 
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| 14.83 || 69|| 60
 
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| 22.67 || 72 ||
 
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| 27 || 73 || 65
 
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| 30 || 74 ||
 
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| 35 || 76 ||
 
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| 37 || 77 ||
 
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| 40 || 78 ||
 
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| 42.5 || || 70
 
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| 50 || 80 || 72
 
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| 56 || 86 ||
 
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| 72 || || 80
 
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| 74 || 90 ||
 
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| 78 || 91 ||
 
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| 81 ||  || 83
 
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Added the above to make this slightly easier to track. I'm trying to work my alt up to 50 cooking so I will add data points as they occur.[[User:Othobrithol|Othobrithol]] 05:29, 31 July 2009 (CDT)
 
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gaining high nutrition levels takes time... you don't get to the max as an instant. 81ql hot at 83% seems wrong to me--[[User:KaiH|KaiH]] 16:47, 17 September 2009 (CDT)
 
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*I moved it to the cold column since that seems more plausible. [[User:Othobrithol|Othobrithol]] 06:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 
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I think i figured it out as close as possible:
 
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'''nutrition% = (QL/2,75)+55'''  ''(55 for meals)'' Someone please check if this fits in any way for other food types --KaiH 22:22, 17 October 2009 (CDT)
 
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==[[Porridge]]==
 
 
I wasn't able to make anything but dishwater ([[Examine|examining]]), putting grain and water into a sauce pan with insane ratios. --[[User:Ulviirala|Ulviirala]] 03:18, 28 May 2009 (CDT)
 
I wasn't able to make anything but dishwater ([[Examine|examining]]), putting grain and water into a sauce pan with insane ratios. --[[User:Ulviirala|Ulviirala]] 03:18, 28 May 2009 (CDT)
 
:I hear it's only possible in a cauldron. --[[User:Ulviirala|Ulviirala]] 05:28, 7 July 2009 (CDT)
 
:I hear it's only possible in a cauldron. --[[User:Ulviirala|Ulviirala]] 05:28, 7 July 2009 (CDT)
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Or fill a sauce pan then fill a water skin with the water in your sauce pan, that gives you a very small amount of water as well.  I agree though, it's dumb how much screwing around you have to do to get such small amounts of water. -AvatarJTC
 
Or fill a sauce pan then fill a water skin with the water in your sauce pan, that gives you a very small amount of water as well.  I agree though, it's dumb how much screwing around you have to do to get such small amounts of water. -AvatarJTC
  
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==Stew==
 
Fish stew with strawberries and oregano. 14.13q and food went up pretty fast but nutrition dropped by 1%. Food was hot when eating. --[[User:Marni|purp]] 05:07, 17 May 2009 (CDT)
 
Fish stew with strawberries and oregano. 14.13q and food went up pretty fast but nutrition dropped by 1%. Food was hot when eating. --[[User:Marni|purp]] 05:07, 17 May 2009 (CDT)
 
:Did the same again, hit 40% while food was boiling. Temperature seems to play a key role in nutrition and food. --[[User:Marni|purp]] 15:01, 17 May 2009 (CDT)
 
:Did the same again, hit 40% while food was boiling. Temperature seems to play a key role in nutrition and food. --[[User:Marni|purp]] 15:01, 17 May 2009 (CDT)
  
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==[[Raw Meat]]==
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==Raw meat==
 
Raised to 18%N with 90q meat(cold) [[User:Urman|Urman]] 17:41, 18 July 2009 (CDT)
 
Raised to 18%N with 90q meat(cold) [[User:Urman|Urman]] 17:41, 18 July 2009 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 03:11, 14 July 2019

Need some input on the following.

Bread

Casserole

Porridge

I wasn't able to make anything but dishwater (examining), putting grain and water into a sauce pan with insane ratios. --Ulviirala 03:18, 28 May 2009 (CDT)

I hear it's only possible in a cauldron. --Ulviirala 05:28, 7 July 2009 (CDT)

I was able to get porridge in a sauce pan, no more than .02 water per .30 grain. Perhaps the ratio is different in cauldrons? -AvatarJTC

No, I tried with a sauce pan, starting with water from a flask with 3 grains and a potato and one grain. I also tried full water and then putting grains in it until no more would fit, spilling more and more water and it always said it makes dishwater instead of porridge. Someone mentioned s/he cooked porridge in a cauldron instead.
I suggested testing it with a cauldron because I don't have the patience to thoroughly test it myself.
No pun at your direction intended.
Further I was suggesting using something else than water because gulasch didn't need water after the update either. But also because getting so minimal amounts of water, that it's only obtainable through hacking around with the game is ridiculous and stupid. If one can't make a dish otherwise, Mr. Jansson probably just fucked up the recipe. --Ulviirala 15:35, 14 July 2009 (CDT)

Definitely sauce pan filled with grains and water. To get the least amount of water, put 4 corn and a potatoe in a flask. the remaining amount is 0,004 displayed as 0,00 (good for lye and gulash/stew/soup too). --KaiH 16:16, 14 July 2009 (CDT) Or fill a sauce pan then fill a water skin with the water in your sauce pan, that gives you a very small amount of water as well. I agree though, it's dumb how much screwing around you have to do to get such small amounts of water. -AvatarJTC

Sandwich

Stew

Fish stew with strawberries and oregano. 14.13q and food went up pretty fast but nutrition dropped by 1%. Food was hot when eating. --purp 05:07, 17 May 2009 (CDT)

Did the same again, hit 40% while food was boiling. Temperature seems to play a key role in nutrition and food. --purp 15:01, 17 May 2009 (CDT)

Raw meat

Raised to 18%N with 90q meat(cold) Urman 17:41, 18 July 2009 (CDT)

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