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Web house skill calculator. https://divark.github.io/wurmhousingcalculator/
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Need to make it more obvious which terminology to use. "First floor" is ambiguous- in the US this means the ground floor, whereas in Europe this means the floor above ground.
 
Need to make it more obvious which terminology to use. "First floor" is ambiguous- in the US this means the ground floor, whereas in Europe this means the floor above ground.
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:This isn't the only thing we have to consider - when editing the wiki I've been using STOREY as this is the British spelling, where as the US use STORY.  Because the master wiki entry is STORY we should stick with that.  I guess I'll have to try to proof read my updates to make sure I don't add the E... pains me to do that though! :-)  --[[User:Marni|Marni]] ([[User talk:Marni|talk]]) 07:25, 3 January 2013 (CST)
  
 
Need to clarify whether the roof is included as a floor. It does have a skill requirement, although it could differ from the skill requirement for openings/floors above.
 
Need to clarify whether the roof is included as a floor. It does have a skill requirement, although it could differ from the skill requirement for openings/floors above.
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: I think we should exclude the roof from the current table, and perhaps figure that out in a separate table? --[[User:Tarec|Tarec]] ([[User talk:Tarec|talk]]) 12:43, 3 January 2013 (CST)
  
 
With 24-26 carp I can build 4 floors (including the ground), but cannot add a roof on top.
 
With 24-26 carp I can build 4 floors (including the ground), but cannot add a roof on top.
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I do not know if the other values in the table include the roof.
 
I do not know if the other values in the table include the roof.
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: I added the ones for 60 and 40, neither which includes the roof. It means you can build the floor and the walls on that level :) --[[User:Tarec|Tarec]] ([[User talk:Tarec|talk]]) 12:43, 3 January 2013 (CST)
  
 
"62-77" is somewhat confusing. From a casual reading it appears to mean that 9 floors are possible with 62 skill, but it actually means that the skill boundary lies somewhere between 62 and 77 so it is not possible with 62 (if this is not the case, please move the 62 value where it belongs). I cannot think of a better way to express this though.
 
"62-77" is somewhat confusing. From a casual reading it appears to mean that 9 floors are possible with 62 skill, but it actually means that the skill boundary lies somewhere between 62 and 77 so it is not possible with 62 (if this is not the case, please move the 62 value where it belongs). I cannot think of a better way to express this though.
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: Yeah, sorry. 62 is my current skill, and I wanted to add that I can not build anything on floor 9. Should we move the uncertain values to this talk page instead? --[[User:Tarec|Tarec]] ([[User talk:Tarec|talk]]) 12:43, 3 January 2013 (CST)
  
 
--[[User:Systemparadox|systemparadox]] ([[User talk:Systemparadox|talk]]) 18:46, 1 January 2013 (CST)
 
--[[User:Systemparadox|systemparadox]] ([[User talk:Systemparadox|talk]]) 18:46, 1 January 2013 (CST)
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Ok. To summarise:
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* Use the US convention floor numbering, but make sure that there is an appropriate note to make it clear. "First floor" means the ground floor. When counting floors, always include the ground floor. "3 floors" means the ground plus 2 floors above.
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* For consistency, use the US spelling of "story", instead of the (IMO correct) "storey". Marni I feel your pain.
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* When counting floors, do not include the roof. "3 floors" means the ability to build the floor and walls for 3 floors, but extra skill is required to put a roof on top of that.
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* Lower-bound values should be added to the talk page instead of the main table as they are too confusing (they are still useful so thanks Tarec). I think upper bounds are ok.
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--[[User:Systemparadox|systemparadox]] ([[User talk:Systemparadox|talk]]) 13:01, 3 January 2013 (CST)
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Still unable to build 5th story at 29 carp.
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--[[User:Systemparadox|systemparadox]] ([[User talk:Systemparadox|talk]]) 13:37, 3 January 2013 (CST)
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== temp update ==
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i made a temp update until someone can write something more definitive.
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BlGpapa
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Skill requirements.
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Skill requirements were adjusted slightly and values were given, can build an opening to the second floor at 20 skill (non prem alt) but cannot build walls

Latest revision as of 05:24, 28 January 2022

Web house skill calculator. https://divark.github.io/wurmhousingcalculator/

Need to make it more obvious which terminology to use. "First floor" is ambiguous- in the US this means the ground floor, whereas in Europe this means the floor above ground.

This isn't the only thing we have to consider - when editing the wiki I've been using STOREY as this is the British spelling, where as the US use STORY. Because the master wiki entry is STORY we should stick with that. I guess I'll have to try to proof read my updates to make sure I don't add the E... pains me to do that though! :-) --Marni (talk) 07:25, 3 January 2013 (CST)

Need to clarify whether the roof is included as a floor. It does have a skill requirement, although it could differ from the skill requirement for openings/floors above.

I think we should exclude the roof from the current table, and perhaps figure that out in a separate table? --Tarec (talk) 12:43, 3 January 2013 (CST)

With 24-26 carp I can build 4 floors (including the ground), but cannot add a roof on top.

Someone else has reported that with 77 carp they can build 9 floors (including the ground), but cannot add a roof on top.

I do not know if the other values in the table include the roof.

I added the ones for 60 and 40, neither which includes the roof. It means you can build the floor and the walls on that level :) --Tarec (talk) 12:43, 3 January 2013 (CST)

"62-77" is somewhat confusing. From a casual reading it appears to mean that 9 floors are possible with 62 skill, but it actually means that the skill boundary lies somewhere between 62 and 77 so it is not possible with 62 (if this is not the case, please move the 62 value where it belongs). I cannot think of a better way to express this though.

Yeah, sorry. 62 is my current skill, and I wanted to add that I can not build anything on floor 9. Should we move the uncertain values to this talk page instead? --Tarec (talk) 12:43, 3 January 2013 (CST)

--systemparadox (talk) 18:46, 1 January 2013 (CST)

Ok. To summarise:

  • Use the US convention floor numbering, but make sure that there is an appropriate note to make it clear. "First floor" means the ground floor. When counting floors, always include the ground floor. "3 floors" means the ground plus 2 floors above.
  • For consistency, use the US spelling of "story", instead of the (IMO correct) "storey". Marni I feel your pain.
  • When counting floors, do not include the roof. "3 floors" means the ability to build the floor and walls for 3 floors, but extra skill is required to put a roof on top of that.
  • Lower-bound values should be added to the talk page instead of the main table as they are too confusing (they are still useful so thanks Tarec). I think upper bounds are ok.

--systemparadox (talk) 13:01, 3 January 2013 (CST)

Still unable to build 5th story at 29 carp.

--systemparadox (talk) 13:37, 3 January 2013 (CST)

temp update

i made a temp update until someone can write something more definitive. BlGpapa

Skill requirements.

Skill requirements were adjusted slightly and values were given, can build an opening to the second floor at 20 skill (non prem alt) but cannot build walls