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* [[Stone wall]]s
 
* [[Stone wall]]s
This will be you basic defense when you start out easy and fast to make and can take some damage. Try and have two layers of this if you expect it will take a while before you can make tall stone walls. Allows you to see enemies coming but doesn't stop them from looking in.
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This will be your basic defense when you start out, easy and fast to make and can take some damage. Try and have two layers of this if you expect it will take a while before you can make tall stone walls. Allows you to see enemies coming but doesn't stop them from looking in.
  
 
* [[Palisade wall]]s
 
* [[Palisade wall]]s
Really costly to make provide some good protection and look really good. Unless you have a lot of trees, a size 5 deed will probably be the only practical size to build them or really small bases (camoflauge effect in woods?)
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Really costly to make provide some good protection and look really good. Unless you have a lot of trees, a size 5 deed will probably be the only practical size to build them or really small bases (camouflage effect in woods?)
  
 
* [[Tall stone wall]]s
 
* [[Tall stone wall]]s
You'll want these for your town as they are difficult to take down (haven't tried catapults). The only problem is you'll need a lot of bricks but for an established town that's nothing. Blocks enemies views of your town but also makes it harder to see them coming. Well worth the hassle you can also make entrances maze like to confuse attackers(add in multiple gates between two layers and it's great fun).
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You'll want these for your town as they are difficult to take down (haven't tried catapults). The only problem is you'll need a lot of bricks but for an established town that's nothing. Blocks enemies views of your town but also makes it harder to see them coming. Well worth the hassle you can also make entrances maze like to confuse attackers (add in multiple gates between two layers and it's great fun).
  
 
* Gate House
 
* Gate House
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* [[Palisade gate]]s
 
* [[Palisade gate]]s
 
Although taking up many resources you won't need that many gates.
 
Although taking up many resources you won't need that many gates.
Don't build these without deed control it's not worth it really. They provide so much extra protection and work perfectly with high stone walls. You'll want these and high stone walls in your finished town (until they come out with something better (metal gates maybe ?).
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Don't build these without deed control it's not worth it really. They provide so much extra protection and work perfectly with high stone walls. You'll want these and high stone walls in your finished town (until they come out with something better (metal gates maybe?)).
  
 
==== Notes ====
 
==== Notes ====

Revision as of 18:46, 6 February 2009

Main Page :: Tutorials :: Tactics

Tactics deals with basic defense and offense strategies.

Defense

Since these are basic they won't cover much in regards to defense against catapults until other defenses are come up with.

Walls

Design

You will always need multiple layers of walls. If you don't have enough time, or other people to help, the first layer is going to have to be low stone wall as it's the quickest to put up (you can always knock it down and replace it with high stone wall later).

Unless you are going for a pretty town (defense of which would be a lot harder) you need to concentrate on squares of walls so that they can match a future deed and so that the deed can control gates.

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At first you'll probably have to go for gatehouses as shown in the image above between two layers of walls. It's recommended to have a tower inside that size 5 deed area which will cover your town from enemy kingdom attacks. Most people prefer to have it in the center with the deed token--although practical, it may not look the best.

Thats the basic size 5 design you can make it harder for your enemy by having offset gates, although you'll need a deed as only palisades will work.

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This design denies your enemies the chance to pick the weakest section in each layer without breaking all the dividing walls. Be careful not to lock anyone inbetween the walls(unless you want to, see catapult use below)

Catapult Use:You could put catapults in squares between walls and either have a gate or put a firing account in there when you build it sealing it in. You can then trade ammo and supplies over the wall to the person firing.

Types

I'd really advise against this type unless you like how it looks in which case use it for fields and containing farm animals. It's easily destroyed so not that useful more cosmetic than practical.

This will be your basic defense when you start out, easy and fast to make and can take some damage. Try and have two layers of this if you expect it will take a while before you can make tall stone walls. Allows you to see enemies coming but doesn't stop them from looking in.

Really costly to make provide some good protection and look really good. Unless you have a lot of trees, a size 5 deed will probably be the only practical size to build them or really small bases (camouflage effect in woods?)

You'll want these for your town as they are difficult to take down (haven't tried catapults). The only problem is you'll need a lot of bricks but for an established town that's nothing. Blocks enemies views of your town but also makes it harder to see them coming. Well worth the hassle you can also make entrances maze like to confuse attackers (add in multiple gates between two layers and it's great fun).

  • Gate House

Just a regular one tile house allows you to set access without a deed to make the most out of it have them between two layers of walls. Easy to destroy though so keep them high quality and repaired till you get a deed and can use something better. Also note you'll need everyone on friends list for this option.

I personally don't like these you'll need a gate lock and key for them which without a deed leaves you open to being killed for your key. Although the keyholder can pass straight through you'll need to unlock and lock to let friends in and out. Once you have a deed just chuck the key in a chest or in the bank and let the deed control the gate. With the deed it's so much easier as you can allow all allies and selected citizens to pass through.

Although taking up many resources you won't need that many gates. Don't build these without deed control it's not worth it really. They provide so much extra protection and work perfectly with high stone walls. You'll want these and high stone walls in your finished town (until they come out with something better (metal gates maybe?)).

Notes

  • Without a deed always go for a 1 x 1 gatehouse since it saves so much pain, or if you have 3 layers of walls have the first two covered by a gatehouse and the third inside one a palisade gate so you have time to unlock it to let people in and lock it again before the enemy gets in.
  • If you use dividing walls, keep them at a uniform quality as you're not going to be able to improve them later.
  • Always have two or more gates unless you have good fighting skills incase someone camps outside or a monster spawns.
  • Concentrate your efforts on improving your gates to as high a quality as possible as they are your weakest points.
  • See Extra Deed Plans

Location

Use the terrain to your advantage.

  • On top of a hill lets you see enemies coming and forces them to climb up to you which with siege weapons is a lot harder.
  • Have your walls at the top of a slope you'd have to climb up this means that without siege weapons they have to climb up to attack your walls costing stamina and causing injury if they fall.
  • Surrounded by mountains on most sides means they'd probably die if they came from those directions. It's also very painful (annoying) to climb between a wall and a cliff.

Water

If you are on the side of a hill/mountain just mine down to water. Otherwise you will want to be next to a lake or even at sea level with a bit of water inside your walls. (images/diagrams later)

Jenn-Kellon/Mol-rehan

Make sure the land is entirely free from mycelium you don't want Horde of the Summoned people healing while they attack your town. Do regular checks for the prescence of Libila and the Horde of the Summoned kingdom to ensure no one is trying to grow it.

Horde of the Summoned

You'll want to build your town so that you have tiles inside your town that have mycelium on them. If you expect your only enemies to be JK or MR have a ring outside your town or just let it grow naturally. Be more careful if other HotS towns are your enemies.

Towers

You'll want as many towers as possible around your town. These will complement your town guards and slow down incoming enemies.

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This shows the basic design you will want to start with (remember they need to be 50 tiles apart to work) if you plan on growing to a big town the outer 4 can eventually be built into your outer layer of walls. Work with nearby towns to build many towers; remember this will focus where your enemy has to attack from to be safe allowing you to set up other traps for them.

Offense

(To be done)

Requirements

This is what you'll need. Please note these are very basic strategies i'm hoping people will write up alternatives.

People

For very small towns and homesteads you should take 6 people just to be safe (with current 30 skill cap).

Jenn-Kellon/Mol-Rehan
  • Two Fo Healers
  • Two people with heavy weapons (AKA Tanks) for destroying walls and buildings (heavily armoured)
  • Two fast aggressive fighters (AKA Warriors)with light to medium armour

To start with everyone fights to take out whatever citizens or guards there are use the tanks to draw all the attacks and the fast warriors to flank them if you have time check their equipment to pick the best target.

Once the main battle is over the fast warriors and one of the Fo healers takes care of any respawns while the tanks knock down walls while the other Fo healer takes care of them.

If you have more people add in more in the following order:

  • Extra Warrior
  • Siege Engineer (catapult)
  • Extra Fo Healer
  • Extra Tank
  • Supply Cart (contains ammo for catapult, food, water and on the way home loot transport)
  • Extra Warrior
  • Extra Tank
  • Extra Fo healer
  • Repeat

Or go for a siege team build:

  • Five Warriors
  • Three Fo Healers
  • Four tanks
  • As many catapults as you can build
  • For every two catapults one ammo cart(chuck in unfinished catapults to be finished on location)

With this build you can fire loads of rounds into the enemy town taking down walls and hopefully hitting guards and villagers. All the other people will be defending the catapults and their operator.

Horde of the Summoned

Replace Fo healers with warriors or tanks that know drain health spells.

Intelligence

You are going to need to know as much about your enemy as possible(duh). If they are relatively close to newtown you could try the old guest trick to sit outside their walls taking note of entrances and anything happening in the event window. Most people know about this though so it will raise suspicions listen to how new players talk and try to emulate them to avoid suspicion.

Full infiltration can easily work on any town that is openly recruiting it will however take up one of your villagers play time faking being someone else actually doing stuff in town getting on the deed and passing information along. If they do their job well enough and get permissions, you can get them to unlock gates or change the guards first to heavy then back to light again stopping them from deploying heavier guards when your main attack comes. You'll also have a grace period while the guards respawn to get in and start attacking things.

You can also just keep chatting to them and encourage them to let something slip or even employ others to spy for you. Convincing one of their town members to turn traitor is also helpful.

Things to Check
  • Where are the weakest walls
  • How many layers are there
  • Where are the most expensive/useful items
  • What level are the guards
  • What time are they mostly offline
  • Who are their best fighters and and who is likely to be carrying keys
Other Suggestions

If you or one of your villagers keeps files on all enemy towns and their villagers you will be able to assess the strengths and weaknesses of anyone you'll need to face.

The basic idea is to keep notepad files on people and towns and adding anything you ever find out about them predicted skills, most common armour used, size of deed etc etc. Add any and all rumours even put what time zone they are in and who their friends are. This will help when you are picking targets during battles and the best way to attack a town.

If you are really sad but prepared draw a diagram of their town(use the grid method i used above) you could even put last known wall qualities and names of buildings on it. The more information the better chance of successfully attacking you have.

Basic Attacks

Sheer Numbers

If the enemy is hated by many grab all your allies pick a time and get as many people as possible to gather near the enemies town. Split into groups of four or five with one person as team leader. One group will contain the overall leader or if you have multiple allied towns arrange it into two groups(with multiple teams) with a leader in each. The teams will look after their own members ensuring they don't die and that they all attack the same target. If you have catapults one person will fire while the rest of the team guards.

If you have enough for two groups you will want to attack from two opposite directions to split the defenders and their guards. Leave roughly two minutes between attacks to further confuse the defenders. Mainly though you'll have one or two teams knocking down walls(always pick the weakest walls and avoid gates which are usually the most improved and have the most defense) while the rest kill guards and villagers. Once you are inside secure any buildings that contain weapons to prevent respawning people from rearming. Assign a couple of teams to take down the tower if there is one.

Once the immediate threat is over ensure everyone is healed up then begin looting but leave a couple of teams on guard killing duty. You're better off taking their carts and filling them with stuff to save time. Try not to stay for more than an hour or two once their defenses are down just incase they have reinforcements on their way. I'd personally recommend leaving their basic tools like small anvils and axes so that they can rebuild and present a target again at a later date. If your attack group is made up of multiple towns try and leave together to prevent people from being picked off on their way home.

Even Match

When you and your enemy have pretty much the same skills and numbers you need to out think them. Organise your forces to have your tanks up front taking hits and picking targets have a line of heavy damage dealers behind them then your leader followed by a couple more warriors just incase they attack from behind without any warning.

When you approach the enemies walls spread out and search for the weakest point(lowest quality and/or highest damage). If the wall borders the deed you will have to watch out for guards coming through the wall they need to be taken out before you can punch through. If the guards are out of range work on destroying the walls and have one person on watch for any enemies coming out to meet you.

If they do come out to meet you get into formation take out their tanks first followed by any priority targets(leader, best fighter etc). Every non tank needs to focus on one at a time once you kill them all or they fall back loot any of their corpses and heal up(never heal during a fight it's too distracting and marks the healer as a target). Continue destroying the walls if they come back repeat above battle until you take too many losses or you get in. Make sure you have easy access into the town incase you need to get back in following a death. Then proceed in destroying the guards and anyone respawning(eventually they will respawn somewhere else or log off). Heal up again then begin looting banding together anytime a guard respawns. If you don't have much time or live far away only take the most valuable stuff or anything you need (i'd go for armour and weapons to prevent retaliation). I'd also target one wall section or gate and damage it to around 90 then leave it hopefully they will miss it and you'll have an easy target if you need to come back. If you do lose any of your fighters get their stuff immeadiately so that when they make it back to you they can rearm instantly. (This bit needs a bit of work it's rather fragmented and hard to read)

Convoy Attacks

A very simple attack strategy. But very effective in terms of cost vs. reward. Usually if the enemy wants to raid someone. They will bring extra supplies in carts or on the backs of Mule accounts. This gives you an opportunity to attack a raiding party at its weakest point.

The secret to using this tactic properly is to give the enemy very little warning before you attack. This can be achived by concealing a small group of fighters near the target the enemy is trying to attack. This will create the illusion that all of your forces are defending the target, which can be determined by looking at local chat. One thing I need to point out is if you take the time to build a well concealed position with which to attack from. The attack is more effective.

Now when the enemy convoy gets to the perfect position. Run out from your hiding point and immediatly attack all the fighters in the group. Then have any spare allies start looting the carts (but try not to overload on loot or you'll be slow). When they are loaded up. Run away and try to get back into the position you're defending. If you can't get into there. Just keep going until you find a good secondary position to hide at.

One more thing, DO NOT go back to your original hiding point. Otherwise this area will be unuseable in a future attack because they will know about it.

(save point)

Advanced

Credits

A lot of this information comes from the time when i was part of the Horde (the Horde vs Hammerfell map). Also Angrycat and Xplict developed most of the original strategies the map before. The tile-by-tile planning dates back to when myself Serph and (i've forgotten your name) were planning that Horde's town and to some extent inspired by Hortons tile by tile map of Whosville. In fact, without all the people i've been in towns with and all the enemies i've faced there would be very little to put here (you know who you are).

Some of these credits are for things i'm planning to add later :D

--Commcd 11:37, 6 January 2006 (CST)