Talk:Praying

Possible bug

After praying at a stone altar of vynora and trying to sleep in a bed on-deed, I got a 4 minute long timer. I'm not sure if this has been examined before, but I just thought I'd post a note here.

--Azated 17:30, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

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A post that rolf made:

Ah okay now I see the issue here. I had to test some to understand what was going on.

Yes, the higher faith you have, the longer it takes to reach maximum favor.

The top points of favor cost more and more time to regain.

So at 70 faith, if you want to stay on 70 favor all the time you will spend a lot of time praying after every small spell you cast.

You will however always regain the lower favor points faster the higher faith you have. The :better you are at praying, and the better the quality level of the altar will always increase :the speed as well.

So, basically: The most time-economic thing to do is to only have as much favor as you need to cast the current spell you are trying to cast. If you want to go fully prepared into battle you may want to spend time charching your favor to full though.

- At the moment you only get half the favor compared to when doing nothing. I guess this is a bug... at least I hope it is. Tekari 09:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)Tekari

Anyone know what the max quality of gem you will receive for praying is? I was under the impression you would only get under 10ql, but recently I was given a 27ql gem from praying. Polan 18:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Polan

Concerning point at which you get gems

@Ago : I'm quite reasonably certain that my priest received gems before he had 50 faith and that it happened right around 35 prayer. Another priest I prayed with is below that level in prayer and faith so I cannot tell with all certainty. I will look through my logs and try to verify it somewhat, untill then I will not edit your post. --Thirn 05:09, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

I have a priest with rather low praying skill. She's not even at 35 prayer yet but has been getting gems for a very long time now, the switch was around the time of getting 50 faith. The last mushroom was received on 2010-07-16, 50 faith was reached on 2010-07-19. Unfortunatly the log does not say what Fo put in her pocket but I usually dropped the mushrooms as soon as I got them. Additionally the logs showed some vesseling action on 2010-07-24, just after receiving some items from Fo which is an indicator I may have got gems back then. --Ago 13:10, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Alright, at this point my logs are inconclusive as well, although they point toward my finding I'm an not 100% certain. I will try to get the other priest (which is around 42 faith) to 35 prayer though and see what happens. Could we - for time being - agree to edit out the part about getting gems? --Thirn 02:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Sure. But I can definitly say it's not 35 prayer that gives gems. Neither of my two priests has 35 prayer but both get gems for a long time. --Ago 12:31, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see :) You know, chance is we're both right - you start getting gems when you reach 35 prayer or 50 faith, whichever comes first. I'd suggest putting something like that in the main article... or wait for me to get the prayer up. --Thirn 22:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I've made my main a Vyn priest for a few days and trained praying. He just hit 35 prayer and 42 faith and still got mushrooms. I'll depriest soon but will continue to pray. Maybe i'll get gems at some point. --Ago 14:42, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Avonthorn noted the change around 38-39 faith. --Ago 16:43, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I had 50 faith and around 33-ish praying. I believe the 50 faith is the important number. Joedobo 23:27, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

50 faith is where you start getting gems and stop getting mushrooms. Not one mushroom since 50 faith (80+ now, been getting gems instead of mushrooms since 50) and praying skill seems irrelevant. Aeris 23:42, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

DopeyMcDope: I've noticed that around 35-45 favour (dunno how useful this info is..) i've seemed to get gems whilst praying... but when i've got full favour (62faith) i don't seem to get anything at all... 19:08 30 Aug 2011 (UTC) - With furhter testing (100 prayer actions per test), the rewards relate to the amount of favour you have, although it does not affect the quality of the reward. dmd

Updates on favor/Gems

My town is currently looking into Favor vs. QL of items you get.
and would like you guys to note if you find a trend

--Upon further stats (taken over +- 2 weeks from 3 priest), We have found that favor does NOT affect ql of items , but frequency seems slightly higher.

--Axeblade 17:00, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Prayer skill vs. timers

Max timer is 30

30s at 2 skill
27.5s at +-21 skill
25.5s at 37.63 skill on a Gold alter (Sincor)
26.4s at 28.54 Skill on same altar as Sincor (Doomgar)
25.7s at +-38 Skill (Ghenghis)

[18:45:23] <Sincor> Check Times. [18:44:14] You start to pray at the altar of Vynora. [18:44:14] Biskits starts to pray at the altar of Magranon. [18:44:38] You finish your prayer to Vynora.
[18:45:27] <Sincor> [18:44:42] Biskits finishes his prayer to Magranon.
[18:45:43] <Sincor> Started the same but fished diffrent...
[18:45:57] <Khasar> prayer skill affects timer
[18:46:27] <Sincor> O Ok , thats good to know. I though it was always same timer
[18:47:18] <Sincor> Will update the wiki to include that fact
[18:47:31] <Ghenghis> at least its what i was told :p
[18:47:36] <Ghenghis> ill double check quick
[18:48:06] <Ghenghis> yup
[18:48:35] <Ghenghis> 25.7 at 25 skill. 27.5 at 21 skill
[18:48:46] <Ghenghis> *25.7 at 35skill
[18:48:59] <Ghenghis> *38skill >.<
[18:49:31] <Sincor> Cool ty for info

New (?) pray message ?

I got this message today...

[07:23:42] Deep in your heart, you feel certain that Vynora is pleased with you and will protect you.

I did not see any effect, although I really was not watching for it. Before I add it to the list, and idea what this one is ? Malcolm (talk) 06:30, 22 October 2012 (CDT)

This is a message you'll get on faith gain along with a few others. --Ago (talk) 08:02, 22 October 2012 (CDT)

[2012-01-01 16:11:35] You feel calm and solemn.
[2012-01-01 16:42:06] Was that a sudden gust of wind? Maybe Fo is pleased with your devotion?
[2012-01-01 17:32:31] You feel sincere devotion to Fo.
[2012-01-02 16:18:51] You can almost feel that an envoy of Fo is watching you.
[2012-01-05 15:49:37] You are relying on Fo to help you.
[2012-03-18 18:22:28] You have a feeling that Fo is here with you now.

So these are faith messages rather than gift messages ? Malcolm (talk) 10:24, 22 October 2012 (CDT)

Yes --Ago (talk) 10:43, 22 October 2012 (CDT)