Talk:Keel section

Hatchet works. Tried using a large axe, didn't work. Probably not going to work with other axes either, but doesn't hurt to try. - Dashiva 17:54, 2 May 2008 (CDT)

In the description it talks about the keel being destroyed on a failed creation attemp, and although it is related to a keel section, this only happens when making a ship. A failed creation attempt on the keel section just results in wood scraps 1 @ 30, and 1 @ 60.

Perhaps this would be a possible way of showing it... see table.

{{Item
|name=keel section
|active=[[hatchet]]
|passive=[[felled tree]] (90.00 kg)
|group=Miscellaneous
|materials=* None
|result=* 1 '''{{PAGENAME}}''' (60.00 kg)
* 1 [[wood scrap]] (30.00 kg)
==OR==
*1 [[wood scrap]] (30.00 kg)
* 1 [[wood scrap]] (60.00 kg)
|skill=ship building
|improve=carpentry
}}

Stika 1 22:37, 20 August 2008 (CDT)

Skill

Confirmed to use ship building. - Dashiva 20:12, 25 November 2008 (CST)

Notes

I was building a Corbita today. I found that what the wikki is saying is wrong when attaching the two keel sections I found it to be this way instead:

The quality of the passive keel section affects the initial quality of the ship.
The quality of the active keel section affects the success chance when creating a ship.
The active keel section is lost when you fail creating a ship.

Can anyone confirm this before I change it?

=== Ulviirala 23:45, 31 May 2009 (CDT) ===

Active keel section QL11.43, passive QL4.69

Cog; 13%
Corbita: 24% (failed creating btw, the QL4.69 was damaged, the QL11.43 was lost)
Small sailing boat: 37%
Small rowing boat: 55%

Active keel section QL4.69, passive QL11.43

Cog: 11%
Corbita: 21%
Small sailing boat: 33%
Small rowing boat: 50%

~~Looks like it's correct to me. Maybe you're confusing something? Tired? :)~~

LOL sorry... you had me confused now, but yea... you're right, it's always been like you said, with every ship. So I checked the article history and I just refined the old article ealier, which was already wrong.

On a second thought, no... I remember that the passive one used to affect the success chance. It was a pain when I made my first corbita back then in november or september... and I didn't worry too much about the active section at all. Anyway, you're confirmed, even though this change is weird and came unnoticed *shakes fist at User:Rolf* :P

=== end of Ulviirala 23:45, 31 May 2009 (CDT) ===

yea, i remember that it was the passive one that affected chance when i was making my cog. but when i was making a the rig some time later it was the active item (mast) affecting chance. Norill

Creation Success Rate

Moving this here from the article proper as per wiki policy. Not my data and I can't confirm its accuracy; I'm just moving it!

Shipbuilding skill	Keel QL	Small Rowing Boat	Small Sailing Boat	Corbita	Cog	Knarr	Caravel
16	25	49%	32%	19%	9%	N/A	N/A
28	25	62%	44%	30%	18%	9%	N/A
29	40	70%	52%	38%	24%	13%	N/A
40	42	80%	64%	50%	35%	21%	10%
50	40	85%	71%	57%	42%	27%	14%
50	42	86%	72%	59%	44%	28%	15%
50	50	89%	77%	64%	49%	34%	20%
60	42	90%	79%	66%	51%	35%	21%
60	60	95%	88%	78%	65%	50%	33%
65	42	92%	81%	68%	54%	39%	24%
65	60	96%	90%	81%	68%	53%	37%
70	42	93%	85%	73%	59%	42%	27%
70	60	97%	92%	84%	72%	58%	41%
70	70	98%	95%	89%	79%	66%	50%
80	80	99%	98%	95%	90%	80%	67%
90	60	99%	97%	93%	85%	74%	58%
90	82	99%	99%	97%	94%	88%	77%

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Shipbuilding skill	Keel QL	Small Rowing Boat	Small Sailing Boat	Corbita	Cog	Knarr	Caravel
16	25	49%	32%	19%	9%	N/A	N/A
28	25	62%	44%	30%	18%	9%	N/A
29	40	70%	52%	38%	24%	13%	N/A
40	42	80%	64%	50%	35%	21%	10%
50	40	85%	71%	57%	42%	27%	14%
50	42	86%	72%	59%	44%	28%	15%
50	50	89%	77%	64%	49%	34%	20%
60	42	90%	79%	66%	51%	35%	21%
60	60	95%	88%	78%	65%	50%	33%
65	42	92%	81%	68%	54%	39%	24%
65	60	96%	90%	81%	68%	53%	37%
70	42	93%	85%	73%	59%	42%	27%
70	60	97%	92%	84%	72%	58%	41%
70	70	98%	95%	89%	79%	66%	50%
80	80	99%	98%	95%	90%	80%	67%
90	60	99%	97%	93%	85%	74%	58%
90	82	99%	99%	97%	94%	88%	77%

Shipbuilding skill	Keel QL	Small Rowing Boat	Small Sailing Boat	Corbita	Cog	Knarr	Caravel
16	25	49%	32%	19%	9%	N/A	N/A
28	25	62%	44%	30%	18%	9%	N/A
29	40	70%	52%	38%	24%	13%	N/A
40	42	80%	64%	50%	35%	21%	10%
50	40	85%	71%	57%	42%	27%	14%
50	42	86%	72%	59%	44%	28%	15%
50	50	89%	77%	64%	49%	34%	20%
60	42	90%	79%	66%	51%	35%	21%
60	60	95%	88%	78%	65%	50%	33%
65	42	92%	81%	68%	54%	39%	24%
65	60	96%	90%	81%	68%	53%	37%
70	42	93%	85%	73%	59%	42%	27%
70	60	97%	92%	84%	72%	58%	41%
70	70	98%	95%	89%	79%	66%	50%
80	80	99%	98%	95%	90%	80%	67%
90	60	99%	97%	93%	85%	74%	58%
90	82	99%	99%	97%	94%	88%	77%

Shipbuilding skill	Keel QL	Small Rowing Boat	Small Sailing Boat	Corbita	Cog	Knarr	Caravel
16	25	49%	32%	19%	9%	N/A	N/A
28	25	62%	44%	30%	18%	9%	N/A
29	40	70%	52%	38%	24%	13%	N/A
40	42	80%	64%	50%	35%	21%	10%
50	40	85%	71%	57%	42%	27%	14%
50	42	86%	72%	59%	44%	28%	15%
50	50	89%	77%	64%	49%	34%	20%
60	42	90%	79%	66%	51%	35%	21%
60	60	95%	88%	78%	65%	50%	33%
65	42	92%	81%	68%	54%	39%	24%
65	60	96%	90%	81%	68%	53%	37%
70	42	93%	85%	73%	59%	42%	27%
70	60	97%	92%	84%	72%	58%	41%
70	70	98%	95%	89%	79%	66%	50%
80	80	99%	98%	95%	90%	80%	67%
90	60	99%	97%	93%	85%	74%	58%
90	82	99%	99%	97%	94%	88%	77%