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--[[User:Zachariah|Zachariah]] ([[User talk:Zachariah|talk]]) 11:16, 20 August 2015 (CEST)
== How Rarity, Mining Imbue and Skill and Affect Max Ore Quality Ore Are Related==
By Dirk (11/07/2022)
'''1) Too Long Didn't Read''': Here's Below are some data on how the bonus to max quality ore from [[Rarity_system|rarity]] and [[Potion_of_mining|mining imbue]] and how it changes with skill. In summary, the higher your skill, the smaller the bonus is from rarity and mining imbue.
In summary, the higher your skill, the smaller the bonus is from rarity and mining imbue. Many people have speculated or casually observed this, the data below proves it.
 '''2) To Calculate Max QL From Skill Etc.Or Vice Versa''': You can use the formulas below to calulate what skill you need to get the ore you want or vice versa.
- Plug in any mining skill for X and solve for Y to get the max ore ql.
Can someone teach me how to make these into a calculator for this??? PM Dirk in game (on WO).
'''5) Additional Notes:'''
-These The above data were collected after the recent update to mining imbue that happend happened fall of 2022. -I'm not sure if it's relevant, but my pickaxe skill was always 1-2 points above my mining skill when these data were collected and both supreme and rare pickaxes were around 90 ql. The supreme pickaxe also had the +10% gather rune which does not currently affect the max ql. -Here's a month or two agopost and graph by Retrograde from 12/29/2020 on gather imbue: https://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/181865-imbue-rework-formula/\ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10akDYPouIPWjcd-UAQ9-n1Jrv1KU0u2MvgqXlBoIOkY/edit#gid=0 - Supreme Pickaxe (no imbue): *** assuming Retrograde's formula is still accurate*** if you subtract the max ql in Retro's spreadsheet from the max ql data for supreme w/ 100 imbue, that should give you the corresponding data for supreme with no imbue. The supreme bonus is 2x the rare bonus, which is agrees with what's known about supreme vs rare bonuses. Examples: At 90 mining, the 100 imbue is giving you +2.5 ql and supreme is giving you +1.27 ql (rare bonus at 90 skill is +0.64).
-I'm not sure if it's relevant but my pickaxe At 85 mining, the 100 imbue is giving you +3.75 ql and supreme is giving you +2.0685 ql. (rare bonus at 85 skill was always is +1-2 points above my mining skill when these data were collected.034)
== Thirst also affects At 80 mining action timer ==Dirk 11/11/22, the 100 imbue is giving you +5.0 ql and supreme is giving you +2.888 ql. (rare bonus at 80 skill is +1.44)
The current wiki page under "Notes" at the bottom talks about what affects mining speed but does not include water level. Water level ''definitely-Rare Pickaxe (100 imbue): Again assuminng Retro'' increases your timer. If start mining with a full water bar at I have a 3 second action timer. As time goes on that first action timer gets longer as my thirst level increases. If I drink waters formula is still accurate, it goes back you can just add the imbue bonus to the rare (no imbue) data above to 3 seconds. I haven't confirmed it but I suspect food bar also slows down predict the action timer for miningmax qualities using a rare pickaxe with 100 imbue.
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